Finding a job during redundancy period
Finding a job during redundancy period
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jammy_basturd

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29,778 posts

241 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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Asking on behalf of a friend.

She was received a letter informing her of her redundancy at the end of April due to the company closing. Her notice period was/is 3 months and she was informed by the company owner to look for employment starting immediately.

She had an interview yesterday and received a phone call within a matter of hours to say she'd got the job. They've agreed that she will begin work mid-June, halfway through her notice period for her old/current job.

Does this mean she forfeits any redundancy money as she now effectively has to resign from her current job rather than being made redundant?

edc

9,633 posts

280 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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If you leave before the notified date by the existing employer then yes. By agreement the employer may agree to an early release and payment too.

Du1point8

22,881 posts

221 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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Not wanting to sound dumb... but what does it matter if she is redundant in April and the company is closing?

How are they putting her on gardening leave and saying that she cant get work, then she is advised to get work?

The company ont exist anymore as of the end of April.

KFC

3,687 posts

159 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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Du1point8 said:
Not wanting to sound dumb... but what does it matter if she is redundant in April and the company is closing?

How are they putting her on gardening leave and saying that she cant get work, then she is advised to get work?

The company ont exist anymore as of the end of April.
Received 3 month notice in April, which means she leaves in July. But starts the new job in June, so forced to resign or negotiate early leaving.

Du1point8

22,881 posts

221 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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KFC said:
Du1point8 said:
Not wanting to sound dumb... but what does it matter if she is redundant in April and the company is closing?

How are they putting her on gardening leave and saying that she cant get work, then she is advised to get work?

The company ont exist anymore as of the end of April.
Received 3 month notice in April, which means she leaves in July. But starts the new job in June, so forced to resign or negotiate early leaving.
I took it to mean the company too was closing in April.

jammy_basturd

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29,778 posts

241 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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Sorry for the confusion, company is closing at the end of July or August I believe.

Obviously it's great that she has found another job relatively quickly, however it's for less pay and involves some travel up to London, so financially she'll be much worse off.

I guess the best she can hope for is some sort of settlement with her current boss.

markiii

4,288 posts

223 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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any leave left to take?

edc

9,633 posts

280 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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Or turn the offer down and keep looking ...

Gargamel

16,350 posts

290 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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How much is on the line here,

was she with them for ten years or two years?


jammy_basturd

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29,778 posts

241 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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She likes the people she interviewed with and the job itself, so I can't see her turning it down.

I think there is somewhere in the region of £2-3k at stake, she was with the current employer for 3 years I believe.

KFC

3,687 posts

159 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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The way I see it, you have 3 real options.



1 - negotiate. Tell the current boss you've been offered it but its not a hugely attractive job, and without a payoff she's simply going to wait it out in the current one, and then take redundancy. They might even give her the full £2-3k to leave immediately, as it'll save paying her wages until then. And if everyone knows they're out of a job soon, productivity is going to drop to near zero anyway.

2 - view the £2-3k as the cost of this new job, and accept it. Does that represent value for money... how likely is she to be able to find something else and/or does she have enough savings to play the long game of looking? If its going to be really hard, then paying 2-3k for a lower paying job might be the sensible move.

3 - turn the job down. If she's confident she can get better elsewhere, and quickly, then there is no sense in throwing away £2-3k if negotiating goes badly.


All depends on personal circumstances I suppose, but definitely number 1 first - no harm in asking. They might be glad to get rid immediately.

Gargamel

16,350 posts

290 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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Well I think your friend has really limited her options here.

By accepting the role and agreeing a start date two weeks away, she is relying on her current place letting her go. Her notice period is three months, and she should in theory have waited, or agreed the terms upfront.

However, all good news that she has a job. I think the best is that she asks her existing employer to pay her notice period in lieu of Redundancy,.

Jasandjules

72,583 posts

258 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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Stupid question, but why didn't she say at interview she has a three month notice period?

Why not ask her "new" employer whether they would be happy for her to start in three months? I speak as a person who got made redundant and had my new job lined up to start on the Monday following my final day with my previous employer. They were quite happy to wait.

bga

8,134 posts

280 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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Jasandjules said:
Stupid question, but why didn't she say at interview she has a three month notice period?

Why not ask her "new" employer whether they would be happy for her to start in three months? I speak as a person who got made redundant and had my new job lined up to start on the Monday following my final day with my previous employer. They were quite happy to wait.
Exactly. 3 months notice period is quite common.