Coffee Barista to?
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Mates son (20) is a coffee barista at a well know chain Clue: "Chelsea FC player" 
Staff turnover is high. So his m8's have all moved on to better jobs. A lot were working part time whilst at uni/college. So he wants to move on as well. Wants the pay rise of course. He's good at that job. But not sure what he wants to do next.
Problem is he's not the brightest spark. Very personable, not a bad guy, but not great GSCE's and quit college after 6 months (Barbering of all things) He once had an admin job and they let him go because he made mistakes that cost the company money! He gets side tracked a little too easily. Apparently he'd start one job. Get halfway though. Start another. Then another and get to the end of the day with 4-5 jobs "open" and nothing completed. Simply can't multi task like normal people. And of course then details get confused and mistakes occur. He's Computer literate to a degree.
Of course making coffee is "relatively" easy. Especially when you do it 20 times an hour 5-6 days a week. I suggested an alternative coffee shop or even bar/pub/restaurant or even managing a coffee shop. But that's not what he's after. Wants a 9-5 Monday to Friday (and of course 25K minimum a year
)
I'm stumped. He's not sporty, he's got no real hobbies bar getting pissed like most kids. He's probably not got the aptitude for a lot of jobs you see on Reed/Monster. Even the "trainee" ones. It's going to need to be a practical type job really. I suggested Security Guard but that wasn't for him apparently. I considered Car sales, but he's not really into cars. Too young to be a learner driving instructor.
Anyone think of anything? Anything considered.
Staff turnover is high. So his m8's have all moved on to better jobs. A lot were working part time whilst at uni/college. So he wants to move on as well. Wants the pay rise of course. He's good at that job. But not sure what he wants to do next.
Problem is he's not the brightest spark. Very personable, not a bad guy, but not great GSCE's and quit college after 6 months (Barbering of all things) He once had an admin job and they let him go because he made mistakes that cost the company money! He gets side tracked a little too easily. Apparently he'd start one job. Get halfway though. Start another. Then another and get to the end of the day with 4-5 jobs "open" and nothing completed. Simply can't multi task like normal people. And of course then details get confused and mistakes occur. He's Computer literate to a degree.
Of course making coffee is "relatively" easy. Especially when you do it 20 times an hour 5-6 days a week. I suggested an alternative coffee shop or even bar/pub/restaurant or even managing a coffee shop. But that's not what he's after. Wants a 9-5 Monday to Friday (and of course 25K minimum a year
) I'm stumped. He's not sporty, he's got no real hobbies bar getting pissed like most kids. He's probably not got the aptitude for a lot of jobs you see on Reed/Monster. Even the "trainee" ones. It's going to need to be a practical type job really. I suggested Security Guard but that wasn't for him apparently. I considered Car sales, but he's not really into cars. Too young to be a learner driving instructor.
Anyone think of anything? Anything considered.
If he got fired from a simple admin job then there's not a lot paying 25k he can really do really? Needs to be able to time manage, achieve set objectives etc.
Sounds like he should stick at the coffee, maybe ask about in house training and promotion?
Or there's always McDonald's, my mate started washing dishes there and now runs a restaurant and he's as thick as two short planks...
Sounds like he should stick at the coffee, maybe ask about in house training and promotion?
Or there's always McDonald's, my mate started washing dishes there and now runs a restaurant and he's as thick as two short planks...
I'm curious as to how people in basic admin jobs can cost companies money (to the extent where losing ones job is the outcome) - smacks of poor supervision/process control if that can be allowed to happen!
£25k jobs without the ability to do basic work skills like manage ones time and focus on completing tasks seems very optimistic!
£25k jobs without the ability to do basic work skills like manage ones time and focus on completing tasks seems very optimistic!
BS30 said:
I'm curious as to how people in basic admin jobs can cost companies money (to the extent where losing ones job is the outcome) - smacks of poor supervision/process control if that can be allowed to happen!
Poor supervision is apparently right! Did sound like a bit of a stitch up.From what I understand, gist of it was orders being made for things that weren't actually wanted. Some that were unable to be returned and some that the "handling fees" were 30-40% since some of the items ordered were bespoke to specific customers.
I think I'll push for "management of coffee shop" tbh surely just organising staff rotas and ordering stock is within him
Portering: http://www.stepintothenhs.nhs.uk/earn.aspx
From what you have described, I'm thinking physically demanding, some form of supervised repetition but with satisfaction and not too shabbily paid:
- Farmhand?
- Refuse collector?
- Building labourer?
- Zoo keeper?
From what you have described, I'm thinking physically demanding, some form of supervised repetition but with satisfaction and not too shabbily paid:
- Farmhand?
- Refuse collector?
- Building labourer?
- Zoo keeper?
A2Z said:
Does he not want to stay where he is and advance up to a Manager role?
Edit: Sorry re read your post. I know people at that Co. though and Managers are on best part of £30k before bonus.
I looked at their website at current vacancies. Store manager is on there a few times. £20-22K But I guess that then measn you could move onto another food retailer with management experience at a later date.Edit: Sorry re read your post. I know people at that Co. though and Managers are on best part of £30k before bonus.
Does seem to be the most likely option. I'll do some digging and see if there's a story behind not wanting to move up the ladder. So far it's just "don't want to stay"
Thanks everyone btw
I'm near his age, but stuck through college, and worked my nads off getting my foot in the door into IT at 20, now I'm 21, qualified a lot more than I was (qualifications are related to pay here) and I'm on less than 25k a year.
He needs to decide what he wants to do, whether it's in IT like I am, or into something like estate agency (they can earn quite a bit with a lot of effort) but it depends what he wants to do. If he likes being customer facing, perhaps a week or so of work experience with an estate agent/car salesman (other job available) may open his eyes to what he wants to be?
He needs to decide what he wants to do, whether it's in IT like I am, or into something like estate agency (they can earn quite a bit with a lot of effort) but it depends what he wants to do. If he likes being customer facing, perhaps a week or so of work experience with an estate agent/car salesman (other job available) may open his eyes to what he wants to be?
Blanchimont said:
I'm near his age, but stuck through college, and worked my nads off getting my foot in the door into IT at 20, now I'm 21, qualified a lot more than I was (qualifications are related to pay here) and I'm on less than 25k a year.
He needs to decide what he wants to do, whether it's in IT like I am, or into something like estate agency (they can earn quite a bit with a lot of effort) but it depends what he wants to do. If he likes being customer facing, perhaps a week or so of work experience with an estate agent/car salesman (other job available) may open his eyes to what he wants to be?
I considered estate agent. "Some" of the ones I've met recently are about the same level of IQ. But on reflection figured there's paperwork there. Paperwork that involves solicitors and I'm not sure how that would work. He needs to decide what he wants to do, whether it's in IT like I am, or into something like estate agency (they can earn quite a bit with a lot of effort) but it depends what he wants to do. If he likes being customer facing, perhaps a week or so of work experience with an estate agent/car salesman (other job available) may open his eyes to what he wants to be?
Maybe with time he'd get the hang of it. I'm not likely to see him till next week, so thought I'd have some options. He's a good kid so I don't mind. I've not been asked to or anything.Rich_W said:
Blanchimont said:
I'm near his age, but stuck through college, and worked my nads off getting my foot in the door into IT at 20, now I'm 21, qualified a lot more than I was (qualifications are related to pay here) and I'm on less than 25k a year.
He needs to decide what he wants to do, whether it's in IT like I am, or into something like estate agency (they can earn quite a bit with a lot of effort) but it depends what he wants to do. If he likes being customer facing, perhaps a week or so of work experience with an estate agent/car salesman (other job available) may open his eyes to what he wants to be?
I considered estate agent. "Some" of the ones I've met recently are about the same level of IQ. But on reflection figured there's paperwork there. Paperwork that involves solicitors and I'm not sure how that would work. He needs to decide what he wants to do, whether it's in IT like I am, or into something like estate agency (they can earn quite a bit with a lot of effort) but it depends what he wants to do. If he likes being customer facing, perhaps a week or so of work experience with an estate agent/car salesman (other job available) may open his eyes to what he wants to be?
Maybe with time he'd get the hang of it. I'm not likely to see him till next week, so thought I'd have some options. He's a good kid so I don't mind. I've not been asked to or anything.I guess the manual labour sector won't be that interesting to him?
Car salesman may be less paperwork?
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