Expenses and BIK liability for a homeworker
Expenses and BIK liability for a homeworker
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rattyuk2000

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101 posts

198 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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Morning all.

My current situation is designated by my employment contract as a homeworker. Analysis of FY to date is 82% of working days at home, customers visits, exhibitions & travel etc vs. 18% in the office for meetings. Company pay my hotel bill, receipted subsistence and 45 ppm for use of my private car to <> from the office.

Company accountant is of the view that these payments are liable to BIK tax via my P11D, but he cannot provide any specific HMRC documentation to substantiate this, other than his opinion.

So I'm asking please if the resident accountants have a view on this and what's the general practice now, given that more and more people are working from home.

Thanks in advance.




Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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Is it obligatory that you work from home?

rattyuk2000

Original Poster:

101 posts

198 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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Thanks for the quick reply Eric.

Here's some background, as I recognise context is all:

  • I live in Milton Keynes and office is in Haywards Heath (250 mile round trip)
  • Small company (18 people) in specialist marine engineering (manufacture, sales & service)
  • I work in international marketing and sales, so consequently most of my time is spent "externally facing"
  • Majority of my inter-company interaction can is easily done remotely (email, WebEx, Skype etc)

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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I repeat. Is it a strict term of your employment contract that you MUST work from home.

rattyuk2000

Original Poster:

101 posts

198 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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I'm not trying to dodge the question Eric, rather trying not to make a subjective statement.

There's no MUST in terms of my duties and deliverables can only be performed at home.

But there is MUST in the fact that I couldn't be employed otherwise, since a 6+ hour commute each day is not feasible.

edc

9,620 posts

280 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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Most employment contracts state a work location. Does yours?

rattyuk2000

Original Poster:

101 posts

198 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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Yes, from my contract: "The Employee shall work from his home address."

It was written thus as the company encourages this wherever possible for efficiency and also to reduce expenses.

ralphrj

4,079 posts

220 months

Wednesday 9th December 2015
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The place of work written into the contract is not the deciding factor for the mileage to be a business expense or a benefit in kind.

If your attendance at the office is regular (e.g. 1 day a week) then it could be considered to be another regular place of work. You can have more than one.


anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 10th December 2015
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Unusually the HMRC guide (490) https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa... is reasonably helpful. Chapter 3, especially 3.30, 3.36,3.37 & 3.38

There needs to be a requirement of the role that you work from home, and also that the main office is not deemed a permanent workplace.

HMRC will try and take the view that you choose where you live, and as your role is not a specific regional one that requires you to live where you are, or requires you to be at home for specific purpose, then travel to the office is normal commuting.

The example in 3.30 could be useful if you can show that you are not regularly attending the office, and when you do it is random, you dont have a desk, you receive instruction from many places etc.

rattyuk2000

Original Poster:

101 posts

198 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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Thanks wsurfa, much appreciated.

I'll have a good read and then get back to the argument with our accountant.