Earnings, Jobs, P45, P60...
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Upatdawn

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2,202 posts

177 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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Does an ex-employer have to raise a P60 for current employees AND anyone who was and employee in a tax year?

the lads had 4 jobs in 2015-2016 (so far) and been on BR and ER tax codes, probably wont have his P45s


cheers

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

186 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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No.

Only the employer at 5th April is required to issue a P60.

Red Devil

13,510 posts

237 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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yes - http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/pommanual/paye61185...

If you change jobs frequently during the tax year, are not working for an employer at 5th April, and do not start the next one until after that date it can be a right PITA, especially when confronted by an organisation that demands you produce one.

OP, why won't he have the part 1A of each of his P45s? - http://www.taxrebates.co.uk/tax-guides/forms-p45-p...
He should also have all his payslips unless he has been foolish enough to lose or destroy them.

Employers must send in annual payroll returns by 31st May after the end of the tax year. Each employer has a tax reference number.
This can be obtained from each employer if he doesn't already know it. HMRC will be able to piece together his earnings history but it may take time.

Btw, where does the ER come from? AFAIK no such code exists.

Upatdawn

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2,202 posts

177 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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BR and ER, Basic rate (all at 20%) and Emergency Rate (single persons but no YTD allowances)

or suchlike

Upatdawn

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2,202 posts

177 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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he will have to request copies of his P45 i think though HMRC will/should have it all on file

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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Why do people seem to be having massive problems obtaining or retaining P45s? They are pretty vital documents.

Upatdawn

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2,202 posts

177 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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Eric Mc said:
Why do people seem to be having massive problems obtaining or retaining P45s? They are pretty vital documents.
Ive not had one (or a P60) for 15 years+.....im self employed...lol


I rang HMRC who gave me all the totals


Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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Upatdawn said:
Eric Mc said:
Why do people seem to be having massive problems obtaining or retaining P45s? They are pretty vital documents.
Ive not had one (or a P60) for 15 years+.....im self employed...lol


I rang HMRC who gave me all the totals
Why were you asking about P60s and P45s then?

Countdown

49,260 posts

225 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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Eric Mc said:
Why were you asking about P60s and P45s then?
For his son?

OP - BR = ER smile

I think you're confusing BR/Wk 1 and BR with BR and ER.

Upatdawn

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2,202 posts

177 months

Saturday 16th January 2016
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Countdown said:
For his son?

OP - BR = ER smile

I think you're confusing BR/Wk 1 and BR with BR and ER.
ER used to be (Emergency Rate) was a single persons rate with no YTD, so £10K then 20%, BR (Basic rate) meant all was taxed at 20%


indeed...

Upatdawn said:
Does an ex-employer have to raise a P60 for current employees AND anyone who was and employee in a tax year?

"the lads" had 4 jobs in 2015-2016 (so far) and been on BR and ER tax codes, probably wont have his P45s


cheers

mph1977

12,467 posts

197 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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Upatdawn said:
Countdown said:
For his son?

OP - BR = ER smile

I think you're confusing BR/Wk 1 and BR with BR and ER.
ER used to be (Emergency Rate) was a single persons rate with no YTD, so £10K then 20%, BR (Basic rate) meant all was taxed at 20%


indeed...

Upatdawn said:
Does an ex-employer have to raise a P60 for current employees AND anyone who was and employee in a tax year?

"the lads" had 4 jobs in 2015-2016 (so far) and been on BR and ER tax codes, probably wont have his P45s


cheers
ER doesn't / shouldn't exist as it;s the same as 'week 1' / 'month 1' working which just gives 1/52 or 1/12 the allocated persona lallownace