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gobuddygo

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1,536 posts

214 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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Have recently found out that the software company i work for has been bought out by IBM, we specialise in Microsoft Dynamics CRM.

I will now be working for IBM's Enterprise Applications division.

Was just wondering what if anyone can give me an insight into what they are like to work for.

Thanks in advance.

Truckosaurus

13,237 posts

313 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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For: Massive Company

Against: Massive Company

There's so many divisions, geographical units, large programmes that there's no single "what's it like" answer.

In general though, despite making Billions of Dollars profit each quarter, there has been a gentle negative growth in recent times (hence a policy of growing by buying other firms), so lots of penny pinching. moving work overseas. etc. (not unique in the IT world).

Not sure what your current culture is like, but within big blue there will be a big focus in the number of billable hours you are booking, with targets having minimal 'fat' for education, illness, time unbilled between projects, so plan on doing plenty of overtime (some or all of it unpaid) when there is work available.

Jader1973

5,113 posts

229 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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For: everyone is a "manager".

Against: I grew up in a town where a lot of people worked for IBM. Then it got cheaper to do things elsewhere. Then nobody worked for IBM.

Good luck.

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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Truckosaurus said:
For: Massive Company

Against: Massive Company

There's so many divisions, geographical units, large programmes that there's no single "what's it like" answer.

In general though, despite making Billions of Dollars profit each quarter, there has been a gentle negative growth in recent times (hence a policy of growing by buying other firms), so lots of penny pinching. moving work overseas. etc. (not unique in the IT world).

Not sure what your current culture is like, but within big blue there will be a big focus in the number of billable hours you are booking, with targets having minimal 'fat' for education, illness, time unbilled between projects, so plan on doing plenty of overtime (some or all of it unpaid) when there is work available.
In my experience of both working for IBM and later working with IBMers, this ^^^ is a pretty good summary. How it feels will depend on how autonomous your division can be within IBM.

JimmyJama

27 posts

159 months

Saturday 19th March 2016
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Lots of ex-Ciber people in the Dynamics CRM practice. They're going after the big projects and working closely with Microsoft. I wouldn't be unduly worried if I were you, loads of work out there at the moment so if it doesn't work out....

MikeGoodwin

3,895 posts

146 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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Look for a new job. Because soon you might have to.

gobuddygo

Original Poster:

1,536 posts

214 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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Why? I believe the redundancies are in Hardware not software, IBM have also said our company will remain Autonomous.

21TonyK

13,281 posts

238 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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Can't believe we've not had the "I"nstitute of "B"roken "M"arriages.

Was Bracknell code for swingers'ville.

Vaud

59,267 posts

184 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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gobuddygo said:
IBM have also said our company will remain Autonomous.
Famous last words.

You'll probably be okay for a bit but I'd expect any bulk work (esp app changes/maintenance) to rapidly go offshore to enrich margins.

Sea Demon

1,168 posts

242 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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Dont do it! laugh I was TUPE'd over last March and last told week that they were making 116 of the 178 people that moved over redundant.

So many hoops to jump through to achieve anything on a daily basis and constantly bombarded to carry out tests and set objectives, goals etc etc and have to submit timesheets every Thursday and if this isnt done you then get bombarded by more emails from people in Romania etc etc

In short, they sell it well to start with but once youve signed up they dont care so good luck.

What company are with now if you dont mind me asking? Not a large advertising company based in Mayfair by any chance?

All of my/our work has been out-sourced to Mumbai and we were tasked with training the teams in Mumbai up and creating documentation for everything to help them, I tried my hardest to dodge all of that biggrin

Sorry to say but I expect the same thing will happen to you

Edited by Sea Demon on Tuesday 22 March 12:31

Vaud

59,267 posts

184 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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I'm guessing it is Optevia.

gobuddygo

Original Poster:

1,536 posts

214 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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Vaud said:
I'm guessing it is Optevia.
Correct, In the past i worked for HP so have some knowledge of how big IT companies work.



Vaud

59,267 posts

184 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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gobuddygo said:
Correct, In the past i worked for HP so have some knowledge of how big IT companies work.
My advice - stay on the front foot, client side wherever possible and in a role that is hard to offshore. Once in IBM get up to speed on the newer stuff in the IBM portfolio -

Watson (hype-ware but some good stuff amongst the branding)
Bluemix (promising)

And some of the newer stuff in the pipeline and you'll probably find a lateral move fun.

If you can become an architect who can sew together the old and the new in a client - then you will be set.

gobuddygo

Original Poster:

1,536 posts

214 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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Thanks Vaud, the Dynamics CRM stuff which i do is 100% client based mainly small/medium projects so difficult to off shore or best shore as HP called it, we called it worse shore, will be a challenge at IBM i'm not expecting anything else.

Ynox

1,754 posts

208 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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If it helps - IBM have just laid a load of people off. They're paying statutory redundancy only...!

AClownsPocket

899 posts

188 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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I was best shored with HP a few years back after they bought EDS. Never again.

Robert X Cringley has a good series of articles going back several years on IBM on the www.betanews.com website. Would give you an inside view on how IBM treats its staff and its working practices.

gobuddygo

Original Poster:

1,536 posts

214 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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[quote=AClownsPocket]I was best shored with HP a few years back after they bought EDS. Never again.

I was based too, based in Sheffield on the JC+ Account.

AClownsPocket

899 posts

188 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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gobuddygo said:
=AClownsPocket]I was best shored with HP a few years back after they bought EDS. Never again.

I was based too, based in Sheffield on the JC+ Account.
Courts and then Quantum for me. Moved to the Middle East after that and finally escaped Mark Hurds clutches in 2011.

21TonyK

13,281 posts

238 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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Showing my age but was always known as "I"nstitue of "B"roken "M"arriages back in the day.

Bu that was 20+ years ago so hopefully changed!!

gobuddygo

Original Poster:

1,536 posts

214 months

Thursday 24th March 2016
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Ha Ha, Showing your age as you already posted that