I can't decide between two roles
Discussion
I apologise in advance for a bit of a ramble.
I've been in my current role for 18 months now. I've been mismanaged and under appreciated for a while and had to fight to prove my worth whilst people were brought in above me twice. A matter of pride so to speak. One was let go as he was rubbish, the other quit. I've been offered a chance to prove myself for the manager role and in a way it's been admitted mistakes were made, or they're afraid of me leaving as I'm the only one who has been able to resolve certain issues when others couldn't and perhaps my skills have been recognised.
On the other hand a manager from a previous employer has offered me a job with a 20% increase, flexible working from home and the position that I want. The only thing is that it's with a reclusive team. They don't really socialise, you don't really see certain team members, as people are always working from home. So salary wise and manager wise, job wise it's bettter. However I'm not sure if I'd miss the interaction. Working from home is nice, but being one of a handful of people from the team in the office means no bonds and friendships can be founded. Or even simple things like a conversation at the coffee machine, or a pint after work. I have verified this with someone who is there now that it is a bit quiet. I've broken it down and it really does seem the better job, the manger is well regarded and a nice guy, whilst my current manager can be a bit Jekyl and Hyde depending on his mood.
People I work with now tell me I'm undervalued and here I am being valued by a manager that I worked with years ago and for some reason I can't seem to commit. Everyone who knows me and friends at my current job are happy for me and tell me to leave. My head says take the new job, my gut says stay as enjoying the people you work with is more important than money. It really is a nice open plan office and if I was managed by another team leader it wouldn't be an issue. Three people have left the team because of this manager and their style.
My partner and I would like to have children one day and my potential new employer actively encourages working from home. I suspect this could come in handy. I've genuinely never been so torn on a decision. I'm dreading missing out on such a great opportunity, on the other hand I'm dreading missing my current work environment, but an extra £450 a month isn't to be sniffed at. It might not be much to some, but it's a nice bit to put away. As well as health care that I don't get at the moment and 1.5% pension contributions on every 1% that I make.
I've been in my current role for 18 months now. I've been mismanaged and under appreciated for a while and had to fight to prove my worth whilst people were brought in above me twice. A matter of pride so to speak. One was let go as he was rubbish, the other quit. I've been offered a chance to prove myself for the manager role and in a way it's been admitted mistakes were made, or they're afraid of me leaving as I'm the only one who has been able to resolve certain issues when others couldn't and perhaps my skills have been recognised.
On the other hand a manager from a previous employer has offered me a job with a 20% increase, flexible working from home and the position that I want. The only thing is that it's with a reclusive team. They don't really socialise, you don't really see certain team members, as people are always working from home. So salary wise and manager wise, job wise it's bettter. However I'm not sure if I'd miss the interaction. Working from home is nice, but being one of a handful of people from the team in the office means no bonds and friendships can be founded. Or even simple things like a conversation at the coffee machine, or a pint after work. I have verified this with someone who is there now that it is a bit quiet. I've broken it down and it really does seem the better job, the manger is well regarded and a nice guy, whilst my current manager can be a bit Jekyl and Hyde depending on his mood.
People I work with now tell me I'm undervalued and here I am being valued by a manager that I worked with years ago and for some reason I can't seem to commit. Everyone who knows me and friends at my current job are happy for me and tell me to leave. My head says take the new job, my gut says stay as enjoying the people you work with is more important than money. It really is a nice open plan office and if I was managed by another team leader it wouldn't be an issue. Three people have left the team because of this manager and their style.
My partner and I would like to have children one day and my potential new employer actively encourages working from home. I suspect this could come in handy. I've genuinely never been so torn on a decision. I'm dreading missing out on such a great opportunity, on the other hand I'm dreading missing my current work environment, but an extra £450 a month isn't to be sniffed at. It might not be much to some, but it's a nice bit to put away. As well as health care that I don't get at the moment and 1.5% pension contributions on every 1% that I make.
Edited by Birdster on Wednesday 14th September 21:34
Hmm, to me it seems pretty simple.
How about making some friends around you home and going for a pint with them? I'm only being half-serious, but relying on work for social interaction seems to be your main concern. If you work from home, take a walk at lunchtime to the shops/post office/whatever. Take advantage of the lack of commute to indulge in a hobby after work. Etc.
How about making some friends around you home and going for a pint with them? I'm only being half-serious, but relying on work for social interaction seems to be your main concern. If you work from home, take a walk at lunchtime to the shops/post office/whatever. Take advantage of the lack of commute to indulge in a hobby after work. Etc.
I would take a better manager and less pay any day of the week
Bad managers are a more toxic environment than everyone being a bit quiet, but still doing what's needed. A bad manager will always make it out that it's someone's fault when things go wrong, and that'll fall to you if you take your promotion
Bad managers are a more toxic environment than everyone being a bit quiet, but still doing what's needed. A bad manager will always make it out that it's someone's fault when things go wrong, and that'll fall to you if you take your promotion
I'll distil my understanding of your post in the hope it might help you...
Do I stay at a job I dislike for the occasional drink after work or do I move to get more pay, more value, more flexibility, a better boss and more benefits.
I have moved from a job where I really liked the people to one where the same culture didn't exist and it was fine. You just adjust your expectations.
Also, if you are planning on having kids then drinks after work etc. become a lot more difficult.
Do I stay at a job I dislike for the occasional drink after work or do I move to get more pay, more value, more flexibility, a better boss and more benefits.
I have moved from a job where I really liked the people to one where the same culture didn't exist and it was fine. You just adjust your expectations.
Also, if you are planning on having kids then drinks after work etc. become a lot more difficult.
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