Moving out of law. What to do?
Moving out of law. What to do?
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Nickbrapp

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5,277 posts

159 months

Thursday 10th November 2016
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Fed up working in law, trained as a barrister and have been working in family law since.

Sick of the culture, but what else can I do?

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 10th November 2016
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Binman?

dxg

10,705 posts

289 months

Thursday 10th November 2016
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Teach it! You'll have just the right amount of enthusiasm for any modern university.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

260 months

Thursday 10th November 2016
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Retrain as a Barrista? It would mean a small alteration to the business cards, but not much? biggrin

On a serious note, is there an opportunity to shift focus within the profession, rather than throw the whole core skills bit out of the window? I.e. shift from commercial to family, or criminal?

cat with a hat

1,488 posts

147 months

Thursday 10th November 2016
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dxg said:
Teach it! You'll have just the right amount of enthusiasm for any modern university.
brilliant, but true.


edc

9,620 posts

280 months

Thursday 10th November 2016
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randlemarcus said:
Retrain as a Barrista? It would mean a small alteration to the business cards, but not much? biggrin

On a serious note, is there an opportunity to shift focus within the profession, rather than throw the whole core skills bit out of the window? I.e. shift from commercial to family, or criminal?
Perhaps a bit further down the line but I have seen a smattering of employment lawyers who have moved across to work in-house or in the HR field either, most often specialising in the Industrial/Employee/Employment Relations discipline. These functions and roles tend to exist in very large businesses with big numbers of employees, think BA etc, and where the industry has some exposure to Trade Unions/collective bargaining etc. By default this often means manual/service-led roles.

ATG

23,678 posts

301 months

Thursday 10th November 2016
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A mate did law > waiter > marketing Normandy tourism in the UK > house renovations > renewable power projects and hired car driver.

Commercial legal stuff would have been a bigger money spinner, and seemed like a good idea. Articled at a big firm, offered excellent position in their commercial practice ... after some serious soul-searching, decided it was not something he wanted to do.

oscmax

173 posts

156 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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What call are you?

What are you after in broad terms - another legal role or something totally different?

How important is the money?


JQ

6,779 posts

208 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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What is it that you're sick of?

superlightr

12,920 posts

292 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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Nickbrapp said:
Fed up working in law, trained as a barrister and have been working in family law since.

Sick of the culture, but what else can I do?
heheh was in simlar shoes as a solictor and wife as well.

We bought out a letting agency 20+ yrs ago. A lot of law still used for work now plus the added benefit of knowing how far you can push things or when to make a stand if you know you are correct. We both make way more now then we ever could as solicitors. (wife was family/medical negligence - I mished about with wills/probate and conveyancing. soul destroying )

The work has its good and boring bits like most jobs but overall enjoy it.


Vaud

59,267 posts

184 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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Commercial negotiation? Linked to law but a bunch of different skills and a good understanding of the law would be a massive asset. Range of clients, you could be in house or at a specialist. Reasonable hours and the money is ok.

If you want a different life challenge, internal legal counsel for a major charity/NGO/university?

rog007

5,828 posts

253 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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Company Secretary

Teacher

HR

Police (civilian staff)

NED

Nickbrapp

Original Poster:

5,277 posts

159 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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Thanks for the advice, mainly family law, looking for a total change and money isn't really big on the list, think around 30k would be acceptable.

I've grown to hate everything about it, maybe just stuck in a rut!

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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Commercial mediation? Your experience of family work will be useful with childish company folk missing a sense of perspective.

Frik

13,677 posts

272 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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ATG said:
A mate did law > waiter > marketing Normandy tourism in the UK > house renovations > renewable power projects and hired car driver.

Commercial legal stuff would have been a bigger money spinner, and seemed like a good idea. Articled at a big firm, offered excellent position in their commercial practice ... after some serious soul-searching, decided it was not something he wanted to do.
Mate of mine had a similar trajectory and similar issues. Moved into charity law and never looked back.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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Perhaps look at a junior commercial role, contract negotiation etc.

Jasandjules

72,566 posts

258 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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As above, you could train to become a mediator - I can recommend a great chap to speak to if you wish, I use him for my mediations.

Or what about simply changing area of law?

Terzo123

4,728 posts

237 months

Sunday 13th November 2016
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Police officer. Your degree could assist you with career progression.

I used to work with a girl who did family law then quit to be a cop. She did about 5 years then went back to family law.

T1547

1,239 posts

163 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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JQ said:
What is it that you're sick of?
As above. As someone interested in perhaps one day pursuing a legal career, would you mind mentioning a couple of the things you dislike about it? And what is the culture? Just curious.