Protocol for disciple for behaviour outside of work?
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Hi All,
I have a friend who was involved in an argument with an acquaintance on Facebook. A single "nasty, derogatory remark" was exchanged by my friend and said recipient said he has emailed HR of my friend's employer.
The company's name or reputation was not involved in this, nor was the use of Facebook on a work machine for either person and the "friend" is not from within the same company.
My understanding is that the above circumstances can lead to no trouble at work as there's no link to work. Thoughts?
I have a friend who was involved in an argument with an acquaintance on Facebook. A single "nasty, derogatory remark" was exchanged by my friend and said recipient said he has emailed HR of my friend's employer.
The company's name or reputation was not involved in this, nor was the use of Facebook on a work machine for either person and the "friend" is not from within the same company.
My understanding is that the above circumstances can lead to no trouble at work as there's no link to work. Thoughts?
I wholely agree. I believe there is an element of bluffing involved too but you can never be too sure.
Friend works for a large company so any HR action would follow a proper procedure and comply to law (if there's even a law for a case like this! It's hardly harrassment or misconduct?).
Friend works for a large company so any HR action would follow a proper procedure and comply to law (if there's even a law for a case like this! It's hardly harrassment or misconduct?).
Depends on the work really.
For example, I work in the NHS, which has strict rules on social media. If you work in the public sector in a professional role registered to a regulatory body, and you can be identified hurling abuse on Facebook, you can be pulled up on it through work and/or through the professional body for bringing the department/profession into disrepute. It doesn't matter if the 'victim' is a colleague or a complete stranger, or whether it happens on a work computer - if you are identifiable then that's all the excuse they need to give you the gooner.
I think private companies would tend to only step in if you're making the business look bad. But social media is still fairly new and if your friend has an idiot manager/overbearing HR they could take it as far as they like.
If the company doesn't currently have a social media policy they will probably be drafting one up very shortly.
For example, I work in the NHS, which has strict rules on social media. If you work in the public sector in a professional role registered to a regulatory body, and you can be identified hurling abuse on Facebook, you can be pulled up on it through work and/or through the professional body for bringing the department/profession into disrepute. It doesn't matter if the 'victim' is a colleague or a complete stranger, or whether it happens on a work computer - if you are identifiable then that's all the excuse they need to give you the gooner.
I think private companies would tend to only step in if you're making the business look bad. But social media is still fairly new and if your friend has an idiot manager/overbearing HR they could take it as far as they like.
If the company doesn't currently have a social media policy they will probably be drafting one up very shortly.
Z064life said:
Hi All,
I have a friend who was involved in an argument with an acquaintance on Facebook. A single "nasty, derogatory remark" was exchanged by my friend and said recipient said he has emailed HR of my friend's employer.
The company's name or reputation was not involved in this, nor was the use of Facebook on a work machine for either person and the "friend" is not from within the same company.
My understanding is that the above circumstances can lead to no trouble at work as there's no link to work. Thoughts?
Thoughts? The complainant is a right tI have a friend who was involved in an argument with an acquaintance on Facebook. A single "nasty, derogatory remark" was exchanged by my friend and said recipient said he has emailed HR of my friend's employer.
The company's name or reputation was not involved in this, nor was the use of Facebook on a work machine for either person and the "friend" is not from within the same company.
My understanding is that the above circumstances can lead to no trouble at work as there's no link to work. Thoughts?
t.Thanks for the advice all.
In the case of my friend's employer, there's no social media policy.
However, if there is one already and the company has strict rules, or part of a regulated body, then I can see that what I've said is irrelevant!
zeDuffMan said:
Depends on the work really.
For example, I work in the NHS, which has strict rules on social media. If you work in the public sector in a professional role registered to a regulatory body, and you can be identified hurling abuse on Facebook, you can be pulled up on it through work and/or through the professional body for bringing the department/profession into disrepute. It doesn't matter if the 'victim' is a colleague or a complete stranger, or whether it happens on a work computer - if you are identifiable then that's all the excuse they need to give you the gooner.
I think private companies would tend to only step in if you're making the business look bad. But social media is still fairly new and if your friend has an idiot manager/overbearing HR they could take it as far as they like.
If the company doesn't currently have a social media policy they will probably be drafting one up very shortly.
Private company in this place. I did study employment law at uni as part of my wider degree and my understanding, confirmed by research, is there really must be a link between the employer and you for any real discipline. For example, I work in the NHS, which has strict rules on social media. If you work in the public sector in a professional role registered to a regulatory body, and you can be identified hurling abuse on Facebook, you can be pulled up on it through work and/or through the professional body for bringing the department/profession into disrepute. It doesn't matter if the 'victim' is a colleague or a complete stranger, or whether it happens on a work computer - if you are identifiable then that's all the excuse they need to give you the gooner.
I think private companies would tend to only step in if you're making the business look bad. But social media is still fairly new and if your friend has an idiot manager/overbearing HR they could take it as far as they like.
If the company doesn't currently have a social media policy they will probably be drafting one up very shortly.
In the case of my friend's employer, there's no social media policy.
However, if there is one already and the company has strict rules, or part of a regulated body, then I can see that what I've said is irrelevant!
WinstonWolf said:
mybrainhurts said:
WinstonWolf said:
Thoughts? The complainant is a right tt.
Foo Hoo, that's you done for...t.Ballistic email on its way...
, sir?mybrainhurts said:
WinstonWolf said:
mybrainhurts said:
WinstonWolf said:
Thoughts? The complainant is a right tt.
Foo Hoo, that's you done for...t.Ballistic email on its way...
, sir?swerni said:
WinstonWolf said:
mybrainhurts said:
WinstonWolf said:
Thoughts? The complainant is a right tt.
Foo Hoo, that's you done for...t.Ballistic email on its way...
Anyway, your boss is a silly old t
tWinstonWolf said:
mybrainhurts said:
WinstonWolf said:
mybrainhurts said:
WinstonWolf said:
Thoughts? The complainant is a right tt.
Foo Hoo, that's you done for...t.Ballistic email on its way...
, sir?...
Z064life said:
Private company in this place. I did study employment law at uni as part of my wider degree and my understanding, confirmed by research, is there really must be a link between the employer and you for any real discipline.
Didn't Argos quite famously fire someone for making a general (and gentle) grumble about work even though there was no mention of the company? mybrainhurts said:
Z064life said:
Protocol for disciple for behaviour outside of work?
I've asked the god botherer next door and she says Jesus expects loyalty for life, not just for Christmas...HTH
Sheepshanks said:
Z064life said:
Private company in this place. I did study employment law at uni as part of my wider degree and my understanding, confirmed by research, is there really must be a link between the employer and you for any real discipline.
Didn't Argos quite famously fire someone for making a general (and gentle) grumble about work even though there was no mention of the company? Sorry to say- this is very real… as a friend can recently testify.
He joked on Facebook about a statue being nicked from an RAF base.
Some harridan decided to take enormous offence at this, and she traced him via his name to LinkedIn and who he worked for.
Proceeded to buy £100 worth of shares in the company, which is on AIM, and proceeded to vociferously complain as a “staunch supporter and shareholder of the company that their staff were belittling the fine efforts our armed forces in this way”
My friend was pulled in front of HR and given a right bking, and nothing further should happen on social media which would bring the company into disrepute or he would be out. The 2 dheads in HR weren’t joking.
As you can imagine he thought he was in the middle of Kafka novel. Everyone else at work just had their jaws hitting the floor.
Said harridan then boasts on Facebook as to what she’s done, with a “no-one messes with me” line.
If anyone can think of a decent revenge on this vicious bag, we would appreciate it.
He joked on Facebook about a statue being nicked from an RAF base.
Some harridan decided to take enormous offence at this, and she traced him via his name to LinkedIn and who he worked for.
Proceeded to buy £100 worth of shares in the company, which is on AIM, and proceeded to vociferously complain as a “staunch supporter and shareholder of the company that their staff were belittling the fine efforts our armed forces in this way”
My friend was pulled in front of HR and given a right b
king, and nothing further should happen on social media which would bring the company into disrepute or he would be out. The 2 dheads in HR weren’t joking.As you can imagine he thought he was in the middle of Kafka novel. Everyone else at work just had their jaws hitting the floor.
Said harridan then boasts on Facebook as to what she’s done, with a “no-one messes with me” line.
If anyone can think of a decent revenge on this vicious bag, we would appreciate it.
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