Going to work twice in one day
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The other half has been going through her rota - works as a senior healthcare assistant in a hospital, for the next month. She only does 16 hours a week, due to her own health.
On the 28th of this month she is down for an 08.45 to 13:15 followed by a 17:00 to 20:00 shift in a single day. Apart from it being a pain in the arse travelling to and from work twice in a day, is there a reasonable argument or precedent in employment matters where an employee can suggest that this is unreasonable?
Or is it just my engineers brain that sees this as bad planning and f%$kwittery, followed by the usual bullying attitude of her higher management?
On the 28th of this month she is down for an 08.45 to 13:15 followed by a 17:00 to 20:00 shift in a single day. Apart from it being a pain in the arse travelling to and from work twice in a day, is there a reasonable argument or precedent in employment matters where an employee can suggest that this is unreasonable?
Or is it just my engineers brain that sees this as bad planning and f%$kwittery, followed by the usual bullying attitude of her higher management?
Split shifts used to be very common in nursing - very popular with those doing the rotas, not so popular with those who actually had to do them. When I used to do them the few hours away from work was mainly spent travelling, grabbing something to eat then back to work. Truly hateful shifts - not something that's conducive to a phased return from sickness.
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Lovely old guy cycled through our village most days, worked on South West Trains as a guard. Gave him a lift home from the Station one night as he had a puncture and I found him walking down a dark lane in the pouring rain. The wife and I spotted him just before Christmas and noted that his lights were a bit crap and we said we should give him some of our spares that we had kicking about the garage.
He was knocked off his bike in our village and killed on Dec 23rd, he was on his way back into work for a second shift that day after a colleague called in sick. He was 65.
Been thinking about him a lot these last few weeks.
Not sure what this has to do with this thread other than life is short and work is just something that pays the bills.
He was knocked off his bike in our village and killed on Dec 23rd, he was on his way back into work for a second shift that day after a colleague called in sick. He was 65.
Been thinking about him a lot these last few weeks.
Not sure what this has to do with this thread other than life is short and work is just something that pays the bills.
It's not right. Hospitals use automatic rostering programs (HealthRoster typically) which should stop shifts like that being allocated, but they are a heap of s
t and go wrong constantly. Get your OH to tell her boss she won't be working one of those two duties.
As above, you're supposed to have minimum 11 hours rest between shifts.
EDIT: just done some reading. The rule is you're entitled to 11 hours consecutive rest in a 24 hour period. So they'll probably justify it by saying she'll get tha 11 hours before or after those times. But I'm still sure it's a computer glitch because HealthRoster really is a heap of junk that the NHS has wasted a lot of money on over the years.
t and go wrong constantly. Get your OH to tell her boss she won't be working one of those two duties.As above, you're supposed to have minimum 11 hours rest between shifts.
EDIT: just done some reading. The rule is you're entitled to 11 hours consecutive rest in a 24 hour period. So they'll probably justify it by saying she'll get tha 11 hours before or after those times. But I'm still sure it's a computer glitch because HealthRoster really is a heap of junk that the NHS has wasted a lot of money on over the years.
Edited by zeDuffMan on Tuesday 7th February 15:11
Its normal, just look at any night workers e.g work 2030-0730 back at work for 2030-0730 - any healthcare professional will tell you this.
Assuming she works for the NHS then the 'allowance' of this will be documented in either a policy or local procedure. Not all departments use eRostering either and there is functionality for this to be overridden anyway. I would check the policy/local procedure (may need to aks management for this).
But in simple terms, chances are colleagues will be doing a similar shift pattern, if its only her doing being asked to do it then there might be another issue...
Assuming she works for the NHS then the 'allowance' of this will be documented in either a policy or local procedure. Not all departments use eRostering either and there is functionality for this to be overridden anyway. I would check the policy/local procedure (may need to aks management for this).
But in simple terms, chances are colleagues will be doing a similar shift pattern, if its only her doing being asked to do it then there might be another issue...
Does not sound reasonable. But then as mentioned, she gets half her week done in one day. Also, it works both ways. Employing someone for 16h a week has more costs than someone full time. Admin. Training. Etc etc
Unless there is a health reason not to do it, I'd advise to just do the shift
Unless there is a health reason not to do it, I'd advise to just do the shift
rambo19 said:
Link to that law please.
Working Time Regulations, 1998.10.—(1) An adult worker is entitled to a rest period of not less than eleven consecutive hours in each 24-hour period during which he works for his employer.
(2) Subject to paragraph (3), a young worker is entitled to a rest period of not less than twelve consecutive hours in each 24-hour period during which he works for his employer.
(3) The minimum rest period provided for in paragraph (2) may be interrupted in the case of activities involving periods of work that are split up over the day or of short duration.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1998/1833/regul...
Trabi601 said:
Working Time Regulations, 1998.
10.—(1) An adult worker is entitled to a rest period of not less than eleven consecutive hours in each 24-hour period during which he works for his employer.
(2) Subject to paragraph (3), a young worker is entitled to a rest period of not less than twelve consecutive hours in each 24-hour period during which he works for his employer.
(3) The minimum rest period provided for in paragraph (2) may be interrupted in the case of activities involving periods of work that are split up over the day or of short duration.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1998/1833/regul...
Cheers,10.—(1) An adult worker is entitled to a rest period of not less than eleven consecutive hours in each 24-hour period during which he works for his employer.
(2) Subject to paragraph (3), a young worker is entitled to a rest period of not less than twelve consecutive hours in each 24-hour period during which he works for his employer.
(3) The minimum rest period provided for in paragraph (2) may be interrupted in the case of activities involving periods of work that are split up over the day or of short duration.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1998/1833/regul...
having a bit of an argument at work about it.
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