Plagiarism in the workplace, what would you do?
Plagiarism in the workplace, what would you do?
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EagleMoto4-2

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669 posts

133 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Where I work we don't have project management software, so when asked to produce a Gantt chart I prepare one using Excel. A colleague who is the kind of employee who needs a lot of things done for them and can't work many things out for themselves, wasn't able to produce their own chart for their project. My boss therefore decided to send them a copy of my chart, which they promptly copied, obviously changing details to reflect their own project. Crucially my boss didn't ask my permission to share the chart. The fact they had shared it only became apparent during a meeting when it was mentioned the head of department couldn't understand my chart, at which point my colleague bleated out well does that mean they didn't understand mine, as I had copied his?!
This is clearly plagiarism, but what would you do about it?

ruggedscotty

5,989 posts

238 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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I wouldnt do anything.... A Gnatt chart is a very simple chart, really not worth bothering about.

You go in here all guns blazing you will be committing career suicide, bang in the file marked experience, and anyways you heard of teamwork ?

CubanPete

3,799 posts

217 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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It would have been courteous for our boss to ask, but the work belongs to the business not you.

If he couldn't explain it, just chuckle to yourself and enjoy the moment of smugness.

bitchstewie

67,267 posts

239 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Choose your battles. Excel wouldn't be one I'd choose.

iwantagta

1,324 posts

174 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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EagleMoto4-2 said:
Where I work we don't have project management software, so when asked to produce a Gantt chart I prepare one using Excel. A colleague who is the kind of employee who needs a lot of things done for them and can't work many things out for themselves, wasn't able to produce their own chart for their project. My boss therefore decided to send them a copy of my chart, which they promptly copied, obviously changing details to reflect their own project. Crucially my boss didn't ask my permission to share the chart. The fact they had shared it only became apparent during a meeting when it was mentioned the head of department couldn't understand my chart, at which point my colleague bleated out well does that mean they didn't understand mine, as I had copied his?!
This is clearly plagiarism, but what would you do about it?
Did you copyright it?

In your circumstances i'd be going straight to the CEO and demanding the other person is fired.

Seriously, you created an excel file that a colleague used as a template. No-one needs to ask your permission. If you really dont want your spreadsheet to become the gold standard then password protect it.

MagicalTrevor

6,481 posts

258 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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You're likely to find that your contract states that anything you create during your employment, and indeed during work time, is the property of the company. By creating the Gantt chart then your boss is perfectly entitled to share it.

And it's just a Gantt chart...

AndrewEH1

4,922 posts

182 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Maybe suggest to your boss that you train this other employee on how to use Excel charts and graphs? Over a couple of afternoons you could show them a whole lot of simple things.

Would make you look good and help this other employee in the future.

EagleMoto4-2

Original Poster:

669 posts

133 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Fair enough, I realise it isn't it isn't an amazing piece of work being passed off as someone else's, however it is a bit annoying that my colleague is so lazy they couldn't even be bothered to take the concept of how a Gantt chart looks and adapt it.
Next time I will send the next iteration, or other piece of work as a pdf so it can't be used as a template.

paul.deitch

2,315 posts

286 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Ha! An Excel genius, obviously a high flyer.

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

215 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Demand trial by combat. It's the only way.

ruggedscotty

5,989 posts

238 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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pdf isnt as squeeky clean as you think - its open on most pdf readers now that anyone can use it adapt or or modifiy it....

if you want to be sneeky - add in some text andmake it same colour as the cell and then leave it, or just lock it down. password protect etc.

AndrewEH1

4,922 posts

182 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Don't PDF it...

I work in an international engineering company, we all copy and share each others data in Excel etc. Saves a whole bunch of time but we all know the basics of excel should we need to do stuff from scratch or custom stuff.

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

134 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Find out where he lives, go round and shag his wife, on your way out steal the frozen sausages from the freezer and.....

iwantagta

1,324 posts

174 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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I understand you are upset about someone using your spreadsheet without asking you. Its a bit of a slight.

However do you not think that locking down your spreadsheet or PDF'ing it would make you look like a bit of a dick?

You lock spreadsheets to protect sensitive data. You PDF things to prevent something from being interfered with/edited.

Are you looking for promotion at any stage?
Who would you give a promotion to; someone who assist their colleagues, give them tools to work faster providing better outcomes for the business? Or someone who holds onto knowledge & tools to make themselves look better whilst belittling colleagues?

EagleMoto4-2

Original Poster:

669 posts

133 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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It's not about looking better, it's about not being taken advantage of. I am also well aware Excel is by far the best package for doing things like this but I work in part of the NHS so we don't always have access to the most appropriate software.

AndrewEH1

4,922 posts

182 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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EagleMoto4-2 said:
It's not about looking better, it's about not being taken advantage of. I am also well aware Excel is by far the best package for doing things like this but I work in part of the NHS so we don't always have access to the most appropriate software.
Well from what you've said the guy has been rumbled by making a crap chart.

weeboot

1,065 posts

128 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Plagiarism definition : the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own.

He's admitted that it's yours!
Anyway, anything you create for the business when under their employ belongs to them, unless contractually indicated otherwise, so it's the companies Gantt chart, not yours.

iwantagta

1,324 posts

174 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Taken advantage of???????????????
You made a fking spreadsheet in WORK time!
If you want recognition speak to your manager and ensure its in your development review.
I dont think they will name a hospital wing after you either way.

EagleMoto4-2

Original Poster:

669 posts

133 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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iwantagta said:
Taken advantage of???????????????
You made a fking spreadsheet in WORK time!
If you want recognition speak to your manager and ensure its in your development review.
I dont think they will name a hospital wing after you either way.
Didn't think it would take long for the pond dwellers to emerge!
Sometimes I wonder why I do a job that helps people when there are individuals like you roaming the planet.

iwantagta

1,324 posts

174 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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EagleMoto4-2 said:
Didn't think it would take long for the pond dwellers to emerge!
Sometimes I wonder why I do a job that helps people when there are individuals like you roaming the planet.
Look - i'm sure you are a really nice guy and sorry if I came accross a little strong.
We clearly have different views on what being taken advantage of is but I hope it all works out and you get the recognition and success you desire.