No company sick pay
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How common is it to have no company sick pay policy, e.g. only statutory sick pay?
I have not had many jobs but they've all had some level of cover, my new job however only has statutory. Whats strange is the salary at my current role is very competitive as are the benefits (far more comprehensive than anywhere else I've worked) but no sick pay?
Secondly, if you are sick for a couple of days how realistic is it that an employer will actually record this and mark down your remuneration?
I have not had many jobs but they've all had some level of cover, my new job however only has statutory. Whats strange is the salary at my current role is very competitive as are the benefits (far more comprehensive than anywhere else I've worked) but no sick pay?
Secondly, if you are sick for a couple of days how realistic is it that an employer will actually record this and mark down your remuneration?
Are you on a probationary period? Have you been issued with a contract of employment?
In my experience there's normally a period of sick pay in any contract - my current company's standard contract is up to 20 days in any 12 month period from memory. But this only applies after any probationary period.
In my experience there's normally a period of sick pay in any contract - my current company's standard contract is up to 20 days in any 12 month period from memory. But this only applies after any probationary period.
It's unusual in my experience as an employer. I assume that is their standard contract and that everyone else is on the same terms - i.e. you haven't been particularly singled out?
To be honest I doubt there's much you can do - I am not a lawyer - but I don't think employers are obliged to offer anything over and above the standard SSP.
To be honest I doubt there's much you can do - I am not a lawyer - but I don't think employers are obliged to offer anything over and above the standard SSP.
NDA said:
To be honest I doubt there's much you can do - I am not a lawyer - but I don't think employers are obliged to offer anything over and above the standard SSP.
I don't doubt that's true, I just find it unusual especially with the salary. pension, healthcare, bonus etc., is all competitive. SkinnyPete said:
How common is it to have no company sick pay policy, e.g. only statutory sick pay?
I have not had many jobs but they've all had some level of cover, my new job however only has statutory. Whats strange is the salary at my current role is very competitive as are the benefits (far more comprehensive than anywhere else I've worked) but no sick pay?
Secondly, if you are sick for a couple of days how realistic is it that an employer will actually record this and mark down your remuneration?
Is it Local Government or the Civil Service?I have not had many jobs but they've all had some level of cover, my new job however only has statutory. Whats strange is the salary at my current role is very competitive as are the benefits (far more comprehensive than anywhere else I've worked) but no sick pay?
Secondly, if you are sick for a couple of days how realistic is it that an employer will actually record this and mark down your remuneration?
Ask Pete.
Ask a colleague... don't make a deal of it, just a casual question.
If everyone's on the same deal you might feel more relaxed about it. They are not going to change your contract (as they'd have to change everyones), but if you're the only person without sick pay, then they've got a problem.
Ask a colleague... don't make a deal of it, just a casual question.
If everyone's on the same deal you might feel more relaxed about it. They are not going to change your contract (as they'd have to change everyones), but if you're the only person without sick pay, then they've got a problem.
NDA said:
Have you asked why they adopt this unusual position?
So if you take a day off with a cold (for example) are you docked pay to the minimum SSP? I'm not sure how this would work.
It's not unusual (Good song title) at all.So if you take a day off with a cold (for example) are you docked pay to the minimum SSP? I'm not sure how this would work.
In 40 years of work I've never had sick pay, and as already mentioned SSP doesn't kick in until day 4 after you self certificate.
Granfondo said:
If everyone was on SSP after 3 days do you think that attendance would increase or deacrease?
Serious question.
While I agree with your point, I was recently ill for a period of time and it did get me wondering, another repeat virus like that and I'd be losing out on weeks worth of salary. Serious question.
For your common cold etc. I just work from home rather than infect the office.
SkinnyPete said:
Granfondo said:
If everyone was on SSP after 3 days do you think that attendance would increase or deacrease?
Serious question.
While I agree with your point, I was recently ill for a period of time and it did get me wondering, another repeat virus like that and I'd be losing out on weeks worth of salary. Serious question.
For your common cold etc. I just work from home rather than infect the office.
Granfondo said:
SkinnyPete said:
Granfondo said:
If everyone was on SSP after 3 days do you think that attendance would increase or deacrease?
Serious question.
While I agree with your point, I was recently ill for a period of time and it did get me wondering, another repeat virus like that and I'd be losing out on weeks worth of salary. Serious question.
For your common cold etc. I just work from home rather than infect the office.
Granfondo said:
If everyone was on SSP after 3 days do you think that attendance would increase or deacrease?
Serious question.
Years ago the sick policy at my work was sick pay only kicked in after 3 days. When it was changed to full sickness pay from day one absenteeism rocketed. It was mostly Mondays and Fridays.Serious question.
I wouldn't like a job without sick pay. I don't even remember my last day off, but it's a safety net I would like to keep.
Easternlight said:
It's not unusual (Good song title) at all.
In 40 years of work I've never had sick pay, and as already mentioned SSP doesn't kick in until day 4 after you self certificate.
Same here, never had sick pay in 27 years of working. So in all these years I've probably been off maybe a week! Can't afford to lose even a days pay so I'd have to literally be unable to move to stay off. In 40 years of work I've never had sick pay, and as already mentioned SSP doesn't kick in until day 4 after you self certificate.
Most firms I've worked for, the office staff get sick pay but us "skilled workers" don't. Work for a maintenance company and none of the guys get it only office staff.
Found that the lads are rarely off but the office staff get a sniffle or a headache and next thing they've gone off sick!
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