In lieu of pay increase
Discussion
I have been told that I will not be getting a salary increase this year (no one has) which is fine and I understand the reasons why.
I do not feel I am entitled to anything in this role, I receive what I receive because the company feels I should, but I have always had a question mark regarding my job title. It doesn't describe what I do and I feel it may hold me back with any future career progression, be it internally or externally.
In lieu of a salary increase, would it be acceptable for me to discuss the possibility of changing my title to being more related to the work that I do? Is there anything else that I could or should discuss?
This will be the first time I have had a review and not received a pay increase in all of the years that I have been working so unsure how to broach things without rocking the boat. In my last review at a previous employer it wasn't even a discussion. It was basically "you've done well, blah blah, company has to be cautious of pay increases (despite making lots of money) because of Brexit, but here's a 3.33% increase anyway.
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I do not feel I am entitled to anything in this role, I receive what I receive because the company feels I should, but I have always had a question mark regarding my job title. It doesn't describe what I do and I feel it may hold me back with any future career progression, be it internally or externally.
In lieu of a salary increase, would it be acceptable for me to discuss the possibility of changing my title to being more related to the work that I do? Is there anything else that I could or should discuss?
This will be the first time I have had a review and not received a pay increase in all of the years that I have been working so unsure how to broach things without rocking the boat. In my last review at a previous employer it wasn't even a discussion. It was basically "you've done well, blah blah, company has to be cautious of pay increases (despite making lots of money) because of Brexit, but here's a 3.33% increase anyway.
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If it really bothers you then no harm in asking. Titles really don't mean anything though, I change mine dependant on who I talk to, 'work in IT, IT Lead, IT manager, ops manager, Senior Business partner. All aspects of my role.
Your job description might be more important if your role has changed significantly - and changing it may stand you in good stead for a future pay review (even outside the normal cycle if your responsibilities have changed that much).
Your job description might be more important if your role has changed significantly - and changing it may stand you in good stead for a future pay review (even outside the normal cycle if your responsibilities have changed that much).
My job title (about #20 of career to date) is Senior Principal xxxx.
To those in the industry which I joined as a graduate 25 years ago, left **, worked abroad and came back, due to one incident, on one night, for not much more than an hour to my peers in my firm, other firms, recruitment agencies, goverment and electric generating board I've worked for I'm known as "Springfields Fukw*t".
Despite a very distinctive surname (I've never come across anyone else in the industry with it) I still got an IM on Linked IN a year ago "Hi, I'm reaching out to the Stan Tonks that was known in 1994 as "Spingfields Fukw*t", is that you as we have a client that is interewsted in your skills....
..incident wasn't even that major really, only accidentally released (t
tted right off with a forklift prong if truth be told) a regulator off a nitrogen cylinder and filled a basement with unbreathable nitrogen gas. Just the regulation of the site is was at was quite "high" shall we say. Hence ** departure.......
Anyway so ask all you want, people will always call you what they want to, if they want to, is my experience and totally unrealted to pay and your management structure in which in one company you can be a Vice President of Admin and another a Director of Herding Works Cats. But if it makes you feel better to be the 2nd snowflake in the tea making department, fill ye'r boots (just not with nitrogen).
The useful point this leads up to..one time I was in you situation and admitedly I was overpaid (according to the mythical department "government cap" that hit my grade that year) to others that got a payrise so their salary equalled mine (but not their subordinate titles) as soon as I dropped my title to that of those on equal pay my boss was, "Eh, you're in charge, you have to be on higher up that Mr Pleb and Bolshy Bob". "OK, pay me more" was my reply and lo, the payrise suddenly appearred.
To those in the industry which I joined as a graduate 25 years ago, left **, worked abroad and came back, due to one incident, on one night, for not much more than an hour to my peers in my firm, other firms, recruitment agencies, goverment and electric generating board I've worked for I'm known as "Springfields Fukw*t".
Despite a very distinctive surname (I've never come across anyone else in the industry with it) I still got an IM on Linked IN a year ago "Hi, I'm reaching out to the Stan Tonks that was known in 1994 as "Spingfields Fukw*t", is that you as we have a client that is interewsted in your skills....
..incident wasn't even that major really, only accidentally released (t
tted right off with a forklift prong if truth be told) a regulator off a nitrogen cylinder and filled a basement with unbreathable nitrogen gas. Just the regulation of the site is was at was quite "high" shall we say. Hence ** departure.......Anyway so ask all you want, people will always call you what they want to, if they want to, is my experience and totally unrealted to pay and your management structure in which in one company you can be a Vice President of Admin and another a Director of Herding Works Cats. But if it makes you feel better to be the 2nd snowflake in the tea making department, fill ye'r boots (just not with nitrogen).
The useful point this leads up to..one time I was in you situation and admitedly I was overpaid (according to the mythical department "government cap" that hit my grade that year) to others that got a payrise so their salary equalled mine (but not their subordinate titles) as soon as I dropped my title to that of those on equal pay my boss was, "Eh, you're in charge, you have to be on higher up that Mr Pleb and Bolshy Bob". "OK, pay me more" was my reply and lo, the payrise suddenly appearred.
ozzuk said:
Titles really don't mean anything though, I change mine dependant on who I talk to, 'work in IT, IT Lead, IT manager, ops manager, Senior Business partner.
This!No future employer would dismiss an application or CV on the basis of your job title and if they did, you do not want to work them. The only exceptions I can think of on this would be in medicine and law.
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