Disciplinary. Can you change jobs while awaiting this?
Disciplinary. Can you change jobs while awaiting this?
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Routemaster93

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100 posts

117 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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My mate has been called for a disciplinary meeting at the end of next week. He knows there are places that would take him on, and he could pay to do a course in a different department at his place of work, meaning he simply moves to another dept and gets employed in that dept on completion of the course.

If he leaves this job then does that mean disciplinary matter is forgotten about?

Could resignation be a deal to get the disciplinary waived?

The issue for the disciplinary was poor customer feedback and failing to follow instructions from management without asking for a repeat of the instructions.


TTmonkey

20,911 posts

276 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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Routemaster93 said:
My mate has been called for a disciplinary meeting at the end of next week. He knows there are places that would take him on, and he could pay to do a course in a different department at his place of work, meaning he simply moves to another dept and gets employed in that dept on completion of the course.

If he leaves this job then does that mean disciplinary matter is forgotten about?

Could resignation be a deal to get the disciplinary waived?

The issue for the disciplinary was poor customer feedback and failing to follow instructions from management without asking for a repeat of the instructions.
The Police resign or retire at will to avoid disciplinary action so I can't see why not!

I would imagine that walking away or changing department would halt a disciplinary if it's for a role related issue, but that would be up to the employer surely?


p4cks

7,481 posts

228 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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Resign, you'll be doing them a favour as they won't have to do a full investigation which saps everyone's time. Trust me I've done enough investigations in my time.

Tell your mate to jump before he's pushed.

HappySilver

327 posts

193 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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If he resigns he will have to work his notice period, chances are they will conclude the disciplinary during this time. He may be able to cut a deal and resign with no disciplinary. Much will depend on the sector he works, for example, in a regulated industry such as banking or finance the company will be required to give references including the disciplinary issue so it will be best for all/one parties to have this concluded before he goes.

p4cks

7,481 posts

228 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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He can resign, and walk.

Do you think they’ll want him to work his notice period? Fat chance, they’ll want rid of him ASAP.



davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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Two words to bear in mind - "Agreed Reference". Make sure to get the reference agreed in advance to not show anything about the disciplinary.

edc

9,617 posts

280 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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davepoth said:
Two words to bear in mind - "Agreed Reference". Make sure to get the reference agreed in advance to not show anything about the disciplinary.
Why would the company agree a reference for such a person in such a situation if they were to resign? The employee has no influence of sway over what happens next after they resign. I've never seen a situation where an employee simply designs and there is any semblance of an agreed reference.

edc

9,617 posts

280 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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Routemaster93 said:
My mate has been called for a disciplinary meeting at the end of next week. He knows there are places that would take him on, and he could pay to do a course in a different department at his place of work, meaning he simply moves to another dept and gets employed in that dept on completion of the course.

If he leaves this job then does that mean disciplinary matter is forgotten about?

Could resignation be a deal to get the disciplinary waived?

The issue for the disciplinary was poor customer feedback and failing to follow instructions from management without asking for a repeat of the instructions.
Quite honestly unless your mate is a serial offender rather and already has their card marked then on the face of it this doesn't not appear to be a case where summary dismissal would be applied. All this talk of resigning etc all seems premature.

As for transferring departments, do you really think company procedures are so lax that managers don't talk to each other, or that an HR team won't flag these issues to a potential new manager?