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So, basically.. Started a new job in IT for a global company back in September last year ('17). I have qualifications and plenty of knowledge and experience in the area. After leaving school I took on a job as a Painter and Decorator that I was in for 5 years before deciding it wasn't right for me, and that I wanted to get back into the IT industry.
Anyhow, found a job that was advertised as 'basic knowledge a bonus, full training will be given' for £Xk per yer.. I thought brilliant. Beats painting, less hours, and in my ideal area of work.
Went for the interview, they said because I had been out of the industry and was slightly out of touch, they'd offer me £2.5k less than the advertised amount.. which I accepted.
3 month probation period ended in December, they've kept me on full time and from a recent Performance review are very happy with the work i'm doing - and i'm doing everything solely now without the guidance/training.
I'd thought I'd get a payrise to the full amount originally advertised after my probation ended, but nothing. After a general payrise last month, still no where near the full amount.
The thing is, now I've shown I'm more than capable of doing the job, plus incorporating other tasks too, and wanting to save a decent amount each month to be able to move out etc, I'm debating whether to ask for the full amount. I feel awkward asking my boss however, as I know he's got to go through the bigger chiefs. What i'm earning now is slightly more than when I was painting, however the majority of the difference gets spent on fuel/travel costs, as I have to get myself into work now, whereas before I had a company vehicle with fuel payed for.
Any thoughts or advice? Am I 'rude' asking, or perfectly within my rights, as the job was originally advertised for a higher amount!
Anyhow, found a job that was advertised as 'basic knowledge a bonus, full training will be given' for £Xk per yer.. I thought brilliant. Beats painting, less hours, and in my ideal area of work.
Went for the interview, they said because I had been out of the industry and was slightly out of touch, they'd offer me £2.5k less than the advertised amount.. which I accepted.
3 month probation period ended in December, they've kept me on full time and from a recent Performance review are very happy with the work i'm doing - and i'm doing everything solely now without the guidance/training.
I'd thought I'd get a payrise to the full amount originally advertised after my probation ended, but nothing. After a general payrise last month, still no where near the full amount.
The thing is, now I've shown I'm more than capable of doing the job, plus incorporating other tasks too, and wanting to save a decent amount each month to be able to move out etc, I'm debating whether to ask for the full amount. I feel awkward asking my boss however, as I know he's got to go through the bigger chiefs. What i'm earning now is slightly more than when I was painting, however the majority of the difference gets spent on fuel/travel costs, as I have to get myself into work now, whereas before I had a company vehicle with fuel payed for.
Any thoughts or advice? Am I 'rude' asking, or perfectly within my rights, as the job was originally advertised for a higher amount!
Agree with response above.
May be worth thinking of the longer game. Are you happy with your new direction? Are you happy with this new organisation? Do they have opportunities you could move up to?
If it’s all positive there, then thinking of the longer game may be advantageous.
If you’re not so keen on staying around, then a more bullish approach to improving your package may be worth a punt. If they say no, you’ve still got two options; stay or go (and try and realise your worth elsewhere).
Good luck!
May be worth thinking of the longer game. Are you happy with your new direction? Are you happy with this new organisation? Do they have opportunities you could move up to?
If it’s all positive there, then thinking of the longer game may be advantageous.
If you’re not so keen on staying around, then a more bullish approach to improving your package may be worth a punt. If they say no, you’ve still got two options; stay or go (and try and realise your worth elsewhere).
Good luck!
SteBrown91 said:
You shouldn’t have accepted he original offer - if you are good enough to be offered the job then you are good enough to be offiered the minimum salary grade advertised.
They’ve took you on to save a few k on their wage bill that they can use to pay a manager a bonus somewhere.
Talking about what someone should have done at this stage is irrelevant and offers no guidance to the OP in his current predicament. They’ve took you on to save a few k on their wage bill that they can use to pay a manager a bonus somewhere.
As others have said, just go to your boss and ask. £2.5K pa for a company is absolutely nothing and if they think that you're worth it they'll pay you it. If they don't think you're worth it then it's maybe not the company you'd want to stay with for too long.
vwsam_ said:
I'd thought I'd get a payrise to the full amount originally advertised after my probation ended...
Why did you think that?If you think an employer is going to do something, they most likely won't.
If an employer says they're going to do something, they most likely won't.
If you have it in writing that an employer is going to do something, they might if you're lucky.
Keep your head down until you have the immediate history built back up to land the role at the proper pay and then ask for it or move on.
vwsam_ said:
as I have to get myself into work now, whereas before I had a company vehicle with fuel payed for.
If literacy skills are required (customer facing role) perhaps you are not matching their expectations. If that isn't a requirement for the role; if you don't ask, then they are unlikely to offer the increase voluntarily.I'd expect a skilled IT role to pay significantly higher than a P&D role, so I suggest that you ask for a review with your boss and state your case.
The problem is that the op started on a relatively low wage for the job. When it comes to pay rise time he will always be starting from a lower base.
My advice is to hang for a bit as you have only been in the job since September. Start looking for alternative employers in the same type of work after you've been there for say 18 months. That way you should be able to show real progression and experience on your cv. It's always worth asking your existing firm first of course and say to them that the job was advertised at x and you feel that you are now well worth that salary. Otherwise move on.
My advice is to hang for a bit as you have only been in the job since September. Start looking for alternative employers in the same type of work after you've been there for say 18 months. That way you should be able to show real progression and experience on your cv. It's always worth asking your existing firm first of course and say to them that the job was advertised at x and you feel that you are now well worth that salary. Otherwise move on.
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