Notice Period During Fixed Term Contract
Notice Period During Fixed Term Contract
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Tim330

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1,308 posts

235 months

Friday 30th November 2018
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Hello,
If a person is employed on a fixed term contract (12 months) and they have a 3 month notice period, if the employee gives their notice period at start of month 11 would they be obligated to give 3 months notice or 2 months? The person in question was originally taken on a 12 month contract but has already had 2 x 12 months extensions. They are looking for another job trying to determine when they would be available.

The notice period in the contract states "During the probationary period the notice required from either side is one week. Thereafter, the notice to be given by either party is three month’s notice in writing. Any notice to be given should be in writing to the line manager as cited on the front of this contract."

abzmike

11,381 posts

129 months

Friday 30th November 2018
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Tim330 said:
Hello,
If a person is employed on a fixed term contract (12 months) and they have a 3 month notice period, if the employee gives their notice period at start of month 11 would they be obligated to give 3 months notice or 2 months? The person in question was originally taken on a 12 month contract but has already had 2 x 12 months extensions. They are looking for another job trying to determine when they would be available.

The notice period in the contract states "During the probationary period the notice required from either side is one week. Thereafter, the notice to be given by either party is three month’s notice in writing. Any notice to be given should be in writing to the line manager as cited on the front of this contract."
It depends. Does the employee want to be working one month into a new 12 month contract that might arise, or happy to leave at the end of month 12, as previously contracted?
Best the employee discusses with the manager rather than making assumptions.

Countdown

47,457 posts

219 months

Friday 30th November 2018
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Tim330 said:
Hello,
If a person is employed on a fixed term contract (12 months) and they have a 3 month notice period, if the employee gives their notice period at start of month 11 would they be obligated to give 3 months notice or 2 months? The person in question was originally taken on a 12 month contract but has already had 2 x 12 months extensions. They are looking for another job trying to determine when they would be available.

The notice period in the contract states "During the probationary period the notice required from either side is one week. Thereafter, the notice to be given by either party is three month’s notice in writing. Any notice to be given should be in writing to the line manager as cited on the front of this contract."
It's very rare (IME) for an Employer to force an employee to work out their notice period if the Employee wasn't keen on doing this. Even so-called "gardening leave" is hard to enforce.

Tim330

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235 months

Friday 30th November 2018
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abzmike said:
It depends. Does the employee want to be working one month into a new 12 month contract that might arise, or happy to leave at the end of month 12, as previously contracted?
Best the employee discusses with the manager rather than making assumptions.
The employee doesn't want to be out of work so will likely take an extension if offered. I should add this is for an agency paye FTC not a ltd company contractor.
My advice to them was that if they gave their notice when there are less than 3 months to go in the FTC then they would only be obligated to work to the end of the contract period. Can the employer issue an extension after the employee has given notice so they get the full 3 months notice out of the employee? I suspect not.

anonymous-user

77 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Countdown said:


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... Even so-called "gardening leave" is hard to enforce.
No it isn't.

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Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Breadvan72 said:
Countdown said:

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... Even so-called "gardening leave" is hard to enforce.
No it isn't.
Ok.


edc

9,498 posts

274 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Tim330 said:
abzmike said:
It depends. Does the employee want to be working one month into a new 12 month contract that might arise, or happy to leave at the end of month 12, as previously contracted?
Best the employee discusses with the manager rather than making assumptions.
The employee doesn't want to be out of work so will likely take an extension if offered. I should add this is for an agency paye FTC not a ltd company contractor.
My advice to them was that if they gave their notice when there are less than 3 months to go in the FTC then they would only be obligated to work to the end of the contract period. Can the employer issue an extension after the employee has given notice so they get the full 3 months notice out of the employee? I suspect not.
Why give notice at all if the employee does not intend to renew even if one is offered. Secure another role and let the contract expire.

UpTheIron

4,057 posts

291 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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They could "issue" a new contract but the employee doesn't have to accept it obviously.

Jasandjules

72,009 posts

252 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Countdown said:
It's very rare (IME) for an Employer to force an employee to work out their notice period if the Employee wasn't keen on doing this. Even so-called "gardening leave" is hard to enforce.
Why do you say it is "hard" to enforce Garden Leave?

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Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Jasandjules said:
Countdown said:
It's very rare (IME) for an Employer to force an employee to work out their notice period if the Employee wasn't keen on doing this. Even so-called "gardening leave" is hard to enforce.
Why do you say it is "hard" to enforce Garden Leave?
It's the practicalities of the matter. If Employee A leaves Company XYZ to go to ABC then, given today's methods of working, it's very hard for XYZ to know what work A is doing for his new company. Employee A doesn't physically need to go to ABC's offices. He could be receiving emails or hard copies of minutes, reports, and plans. He could be doing site visits incognito to see how the Company is running. he might even have social connections with people who were his clients when he worked at XYZ that he still stays in touch with on LinkedIn. In other words there are numerous things he could do for the benefit of his new role.

For Company XYZ to even know what he is doing and then to be able to prove this contravenes his "gardening leave" AND for this to be financially beneficial for XYZ to do this iin Court s, IMHO, a "long shot". Now I'm sure there are some organisations which will actively pursue former employees and enforce Gardening leave clauses. Equally I am sure there are some employees who had gardening leave clauses in their contracts simply because it was a standard contract clause at their particular grade and it's not worth the company's while enforcing it even if they wanted to.

anonymous-user

77 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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You might be surprised how often employers do find out about illicit client contacts and the like. Not uncommonly, the clients disclose this.