What should I do?

[rougerogue]

As per the title really, need a new job and wondering if anyone had any bright ideas, as often, apart from the most obvious roles, it's hard to know what even exists.
I have a random CV, I'm 36 and variously since leaving school I've worked as follows:
-Generic office jobs / call centres.
-Crime Scene Examiner for the Met.
-Driver
-Now work part time for a chain of wine shops, in the shop and out delivering.

Need some full time work as about to get divorced, happy to try most things and it doesn't have to be amazing pay, just low to average. I live fairly rurally between Newcastle and Carlisle, closer to Newcastle, which is also a bit of a hinderance.

Anyone think of anything or know of any opportunities or simply need to hire someone? Thanks.

[rog007]

There are plenty of opportunities for those with the right attitude.

I’d be happy to look at your current CV and from that I may be able to signpost you to some relevant opportunities.

In the meantime, it may be worth thinking about a more robust and sustainable long term plan for a career, if you aspire to this.

Start by thinking about what you’re good at and what you’d enjoy doing.

[lyonspride]

rog007 said:

There are plenty of opportunities for those with the right attitude.

I’d be happy to look at your current CV and from that I may be able to signpost you to some relevant opportunities.

In the meantime, it may be worth thinking about a more robust and sustainable long term plan for a career, if you aspire to this.

Start by thinking about what you’re good at and what you’d enjoy doing.

I'm sorry, but this is one of the biggest lies we're ever told.

[LimaDelta]

You are too old for the Army or RN (I stand ready to be corrected) but I think the RAF will still take you at 36. An interesting and rewarding career no matter which branch or speciality you choose.

[Countdown]

lyonspride said:

rog007 said:

There are plenty of opportunities for those with the right attitude.

I’d be happy to look at your current CV and from that I may be able to signpost you to some relevant opportunities.

In the meantime, it may be worth thinking about a more robust and sustainable long term plan for a career, if you aspire to this.

Start by thinking about what you’re good at and what you’d enjoy doing.

I'm sorry, but this is one of the biggest lies we're ever told.

How can it be a “lie” when it’s a suggestion rather than a “Fact” ?

...unless you’re suggesting that there’s no such thing as a long-term plan for a career,,?

[Rich_W]

Countdown said:

lyonspride said:

rog007 said:

There are plenty of opportunities for those with the right attitude.

I’d be happy to look at your current CV and from that I may be able to signpost you to some relevant opportunities.

In the meantime, it may be worth thinking about a more robust and sustainable long term plan for a career, if you aspire to this.

Start by thinking about what you’re good at and what you’d enjoy doing.

I'm sorry, but this is one of the biggest lies we're ever told.

How can it be a “lie” when it’s a suggestion rather than a “Fact” ?

...unless you’re suggesting that there’s no such thing as a long-term plan for a career,,?

I read it that if you have a long term career plan (like many of us do when we're younger) you'll be too rigid and miss opportunity that comes your way since it wont fit into "your vision"

[lyonspride]

Countdown said:

lyonspride said:

rog007 said:

There are plenty of opportunities for those with the right attitude.

I’d be happy to look at your current CV and from that I may be able to signpost you to some relevant opportunities.

In the meantime, it may be worth thinking about a more robust and sustainable long term plan for a career, if you aspire to this.

Start by thinking about what you’re good at and what you’d enjoy doing.

I'm sorry, but this is one of the biggest lies we're ever told.

How can it be a “lie” when it’s a suggestion rather than a “Fact” ?

...unless you’re suggesting that there’s no such thing as a long-term plan for a career,,?

"Career" is the lie, you spend your working life chasing it, you spent your personal life chasing it, and you just get sh*t on repeatedly. The only way to have a career is self employed, anything else is just making "the man" rich, right up until your made redundant or sacked. There is no such thing as job security these days, so yes "career" is a lie.

[markiii]

netter to have a plan thats flexible than no plan at all

[acd80]

LimaDelta said:

You are too old for the Army or RN (I stand ready to be corrected) but I think the RAF will still take you at 36. An interesting and rewarding career no matter which branch or speciality you choose.

RN Police is an option up to the age of 37 and RFA will take people up to and including in their 40's. But a life at sea for someone at that age isn't much fun.

[98elise]

lyonspride said:

Countdown said:

lyonspride said:

rog007 said:

There are plenty of opportunities for those with the right attitude.

I’d be happy to look at your current CV and from that I may be able to signpost you to some relevant opportunities.

In the meantime, it may be worth thinking about a more robust and sustainable long term plan for a career, if you aspire to this.

Start by thinking about what you’re good at and what you’d enjoy doing.

I'm sorry, but this is one of the biggest lies we're ever told.

How can it be a “lie” when it’s a suggestion rather than a “Fact” ?

...unless you’re suggesting that there’s no such thing as a long-term plan for a career,,?

"Career" is the lie, you spend your working life chasing it, you spent your personal life chasing it, and you just get sh*t on repeatedly. The only way to have a career is self employed, anything else is just making "the man" rich, right up until your made redundant or sacked. There is no such thing as job security these days, so yes "career" is a lie.

I think your confusing career with "job for life".

I have a career in IT and I've be been doing it for 20 years. Before that I had a career as an engineer.

Both involved starting at the bottom, gaining qualifications, becoming good at what I did, progressing in experience and seniority. That is a career.

Both of those carrers involved multiple employers, but as it was a career my skills were transferable and my qualifications recognised wherever I went. I have zero fear of redundancy, I can just shift my skills to a new employer.

[dundarach]

Mate of mine worked for wine shop, now manages a Lidl store with a nice Audi...!

Is there room in your experience to move into store management, that's what he did??

What you like with children? My experience is education, however schools are often on the look out for cover supervisors, year leaders etc with life experience??

Not sure that's any use??

[anonymous-user]

lyonspride said:

Countdown said:

lyonspride said:

rog007 said:

There are plenty of opportunities for those with the right attitude.

I’d be happy to look at your current CV and from that I may be able to signpost you to some relevant opportunities.

In the meantime, it may be worth thinking about a more robust and sustainable long term plan for a career, if you aspire to this.

Start by thinking about what you’re good at and what you’d enjoy doing.

I'm sorry, but this is one of the biggest lies we're ever told.

How can it be a “lie” when it’s a suggestion rather than a “Fact” ?

...unless you’re suggesting that there’s no such thing as a long-term plan for a career,,?

"Career" is the lie, you spend your working life chasing it, you spent your personal life chasing it, and you just get sh*t on repeatedly. The only way to have a career is self employed, anything else is just making "the man" rich, right up until your made redundant or sacked. There is no such thing as job security these days, so yes "career" is a lie.

What an idiotic post.

Worked at my company for 12 years, never heard of anything like that.

Career is only a lie if you are useless, an idiot or think you are entitled to a job.

[rougerogue]

(Mostly) helpful replies folks thanks. Lots of forces suggestions although I may be knocking on a bit for those as you say.

[ZOLLAR]

rougerogue said:

(Mostly) helpful replies folks thanks. Lots of forces suggestions although I may be knocking on a bit for those as you say.

Thought about Insurance?
You'd probably have to start off entry level such as call centre/customer services however there's a vast array of roles within insurance.

I note you worked for the Met as a crime scene examiner, I can only assume you have the concentration to be meticulous and pay attention to detail, that may lead to an investigative role within the insurer?
Further assumptions tell me you must have at least some interest in cars which would be beneficial if you applied to a insurer that deals in motor (you'd be surprised how many in motor insurance don't actually have any passion for cars)

I know a fair number of ex police officers that have moved into insurance and taken on investigation roles.

As said two of your previous occupations (CSE and call centre work) would be a good talking point when in interview with an insurer.

[schmalex]

rog007 said:

There are plenty of opportunities for those with the right attitude.

I’d be happy to look at your current CV and from that I may be able to signpost you to some relevant opportunities.

In the meantime, it may be worth thinking about a more robust and sustainable long term plan for a career, if you aspire to this.

Start by thinking about what you’re good at and what you’d enjoy doing.

OP. I strongly recommend you have a chat with Roger. He worked through some stuff with me over the summer and I start a new role at a new employer tomorrow as a direct result of his inputs, suggestions and shaping.

[Countdown]

lyonspride said:

"Career" is the lie, you spend your working life chasing it, you spent your personal life chasing it, and you just get sh*t on repeatedly. The only way to have a career is self employed, anything else is just making "the man" rich, right up until your made redundant or sacked. There is no such thing as job security these days, so yes "career" is a lie.

Based on your replies to other "jobs" threads, it seems that you're not happy with your current and previous roles. That's unfortunate but it's not the case for a lot of people. It is perfectly possible to have am enjoyable and fulfilling career; some people find one at the age of 16, others might find it at the age of 55. There is not a single "career" in the world that results in a person getting sh*t on repeatedly (certain managers/management might do that to you but that's not all managers or even IMHO "most" managers).

Job Security is not connected to "career". Even if i was to be made redundant I would hope to find another job related to my career.

[silent ninja]

I remember doing lots of odd jobs like you. Waiter, warehouse operative, picker/packer, fast food, retail, post man, call centre, IT support...

I hit a ceiling several times. Then I realised, managers and those on higher pay grades weren't necessarily working any harder than me. But were on double, triple the salary and more. Why is that?

So you mentioning you wouldn't mind something average or low paid shows a lack of ambition. You could earn more, have more security, and not work much harder or longer than you have in previous jobs - and even if you are, if you choose a path aligned to your interests, it'll feel less like hard graft "work."

Do you want to chug along at minimal rate, and forever dispensable? Ever year facing the stress of loss income. If you have a job that requires no thinking, no creativity or cognitive skills or art, then you are a commodity. You are structurally being put out of work and your life is going to get a heck of a lot harder in the next decade and the decade after that. No respite. You're the bottom of the stack, gig economy fodder. No rights because nobody cares. Or do you want skills that make you valuable, give you power in the market, allow you to have more freedom?

You need to work smarter. Hone in. Get some specialist (but not niche) skills in an area that has demand and opportunity. Something that will reward your effort, meaning you don't start from scratch just because you lost a job. Take some small risks in your life. Try new things. There is so much opportunity out there - be brave and try some. If they don't work, quickly move on to the next.

Edited by silent ninja on Sunday 6th January 20:04

[FocusRS3]

lyonspride said:

"Career" is the lie, you spend your working life chasing it, you spent your personal life chasing it, and you just get sh*t on repeatedly. The only way to have a career is self employed, anything else is just making "the man" rich, right up until your made redundant or sacked. There is no such thing as job security these days, so yes "career" is a lie.

I have to agree with this......

[Countdown]

silent ninja said:

I hit a ceiling several times. Then I realised, managers and those on higher pay grades weren't necessarily working any harder than me. But were on double, triple the salary and more. Why is that?

I accept this might not always be the case but it might be because they have more knowledge/experience/understanding of not only the roles that report to them but how their area of work fits into the wider business.

For example a Finance Director should have a very good understanding of Sales Ledger, Purchase Ledger, Treasury/cashflow management, CapEx, Tax, payroll, Management Accounting, Audit, and financial planning/forecasting. People who report to him will probably know a smaller range of areas but in more detail. The FD should know enough to make sure everything works properly and ensures that he has the right staff with the right training in the right roles. And if/when the fit hits the shan it's the Manager that should be taking responsibility. That's why they get paid more.

[rougerogue]

ZOLLAR said:

Thought about Insurance?
You'd probably have to start off entry level such as call centre/customer services however there's a vast array of roles within insurance.

I note you worked for the Met as a crime scene examiner, I can only assume you have the concentration to be meticulous and pay attention to detail, that may lead to an investigative role within the insurer?
Further assumptions tell me you must have at least some interest in cars which would be beneficial if you applied to a insurer that deals in motor (you'd be surprised how many in motor insurance don't actually have any passion for cars)

I know a fair number of ex police officers that have moved into insurance and taken on investigation roles.

As said two of your previous occupations (CSE and call centre work) would be a good talking point when in interview with an insurer.

It has crossed my mind and I would be ideal for assessor roles or similar but haven't been able to get a sniff yet, like you say, got to start at the bottom perhaps and haven't seen many jobs within reasonable distance.