Reinstating resignation... Question.
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Hi all,
I tendered my resignation to my employer (largeish UK retail chain) on the 25th January with my last working day to be the 22nd February. My line manager visited me on the 25th January and convinced me to stay (no extra money, but regional help for my store to cut my own hours down from 80-100 per week to 50-60. I have a 42 hour contract).
This hasn't really materialised and now he's saying I can't take a 4 day holiday I had booked - and authorised under my previous line manager - due to a lack of resource on the area.
I'm pissed off and tired. I didn't take any holiday last year because the company runs so tight on staff that my store would not have been maintained while I was away. I have had 2 days off since August (and neither of those were even Christmas Day!).
I would like to reinstate my resignation and maintain my original leaving date of 22nd Feb, but I suspect I've played into their hands and they'll insist on a fresh 4 week notice period.
They'll say I'm in breach of contract, but they seem to get away with being able to pay me less than minimum wage on the basis that I'm salaried for 42 hours a week, and maintaining staffing is my own problem. (But my staff are regularly taken out of my store to support others by my area manager, and I get no rush budget to back fill?!?!).
I tendered my resignation to my employer (largeish UK retail chain) on the 25th January with my last working day to be the 22nd February. My line manager visited me on the 25th January and convinced me to stay (no extra money, but regional help for my store to cut my own hours down from 80-100 per week to 50-60. I have a 42 hour contract).
This hasn't really materialised and now he's saying I can't take a 4 day holiday I had booked - and authorised under my previous line manager - due to a lack of resource on the area.
I'm pissed off and tired. I didn't take any holiday last year because the company runs so tight on staff that my store would not have been maintained while I was away. I have had 2 days off since August (and neither of those were even Christmas Day!).
I would like to reinstate my resignation and maintain my original leaving date of 22nd Feb, but I suspect I've played into their hands and they'll insist on a fresh 4 week notice period.
They'll say I'm in breach of contract, but they seem to get away with being able to pay me less than minimum wage on the basis that I'm salaried for 42 hours a week, and maintaining staffing is my own problem. (But my staff are regularly taken out of my store to support others by my area manager, and I get no rush budget to back fill?!?!).
Walking out is bad advice.. run and don’t stop!
I’d be going to the doctors, work related stress should get you 4 weeks. Before you leave ensure you have a copy of your rota for the past few months, and any email correspondence you have with your superiors.
You haven’t mentioned any future employment you have lined up. Generally people are fearful of work related stress/long term sickness due to how future employers will view it. As long as it’s stated to be ‘work related’ you can explain the reasoning.
If you can afford to leave without any sick pay, then run anyway. Whatever you do, I’d make today your last day.
I’d be going to the doctors, work related stress should get you 4 weeks. Before you leave ensure you have a copy of your rota for the past few months, and any email correspondence you have with your superiors.
You haven’t mentioned any future employment you have lined up. Generally people are fearful of work related stress/long term sickness due to how future employers will view it. As long as it’s stated to be ‘work related’ you can explain the reasoning.
If you can afford to leave without any sick pay, then run anyway. Whatever you do, I’d make today your last day.
keirik said:
Tender another resignation stating there has been a breach of the agreement made on 25th and therefore you will still be leaving on originally scheduled date.
This is pretty much my intention.I'm a salaried store manager on circa £25k, but it soon drops below minimum wage when you're working 80+ hours. I've put up with it for so long because of the carrot being dangled & I've always had excellent stores & KPI results.
If I were to walk out don't know how it would affect my chances of getting another job!
SebastienClement said:
I tendered my resignation to my employer (largeish UK retail chain) on the 25th January with my last working day to be the 22nd February. My line manager visited me on the 25th January and convinced me to stay (no extra money, but regional help for my store to cut my own hours down from 80-100 per week to 50-60. I have a 42 hour contract).
The fact you agreed clearly demonstrates you love your job.100 hrs pw is 14.25 hours a day. You sure about that?
A retail company will push their staff and get away with what they can.
SebastienClement said:
This hasn't really materialised and now he's saying I can't take a 4 day holiday I had booked - and authorised under my previous line manager - due to a lack of resource on the area.
Your previous line manager authorised your holiday whilst an employee. Their decision stands. Your holiday can only be cancelled if a/ you cancel it, or b/ you agree to their request to cancel it.SebastienClement said:
I'm pissed off and tired. I didn't take any holiday last year because the company runs so tight on staff that my store would not have been maintained while I was away. I have had 2 days off since August (and neither of those were even Christmas Day!).
I'm sorry but the only person to blame for that is you. You are legally entitled to 28 days holiday a year, and from memory you have to take 20 of them.SebastienClement said:
I would like to reinstate my resignation and maintain my original leaving date of 22nd Feb, but I suspect I've played into their hands and they'll insist on a fresh 4 week notice period.
Tell them that. They can only say no. Even if you have to work 4 weeks then take the holiday they have already authorised. Remember that during this time work 42 hrs pwSebastienClement said:
They'll say I'm in breach of contract, but they seem to get away with being able to pay me less than minimum wage on the basis that I'm salaried for 42 hours a week, and maintaining staffing is my own problem. (But my staff are regularly taken out of my store to support others by my area manager, and I get no rush budget to back fill?!?!).
They do what they do because you let them get away with it so they keep pushing.Edited by Sir Bagalot on Friday 15th February 19:19
Edited by Sir Bagalot on Friday 15th February 19:22
Did you officially rescind your resignation if not I would just reiterate as above,
you have not rescinded your resignation, promises that were given have not been honoured therefore your original date of resignation still stands.
This may sound harsh op but the only reason your area manager has kept you on is to make his life easier, especially if you are doing those hours. and if they kick off I would be straight down the GP to go on sick leave until my time is up due to stress of long hours!
you have not rescinded your resignation, promises that were given have not been honoured therefore your original date of resignation still stands.
This may sound harsh op but the only reason your area manager has kept you on is to make his life easier, especially if you are doing those hours. and if they kick off I would be straight down the GP to go on sick leave until my time is up due to stress of long hours!
SebastienClement said:
This is pretty much my intention.
I'm a salaried store manager on circa £25k, but it soon drops below minimum wage when you're working 80+ hours. I've put up with it for so long because of the carrot being dangled & I've always had excellent stores & KPI results.
If I were to walk out don't know how it would affect my chances of getting another job!
Until you posted that I assumed you worked for Lidl or Aldi. They're well known for screwing every ounce out of their staff but AIUI they pay managers relatively well (£40k upwards). There are basic admin jobs which pay £18k nowadays. You're bonkers for working so hard for so littleI'm a salaried store manager on circa £25k, but it soon drops below minimum wage when you're working 80+ hours. I've put up with it for so long because of the carrot being dangled & I've always had excellent stores & KPI results.
If I were to walk out don't know how it would affect my chances of getting another job!
Submit resignation, make it clear you are working only 42 hours a week for your notice period, or they can pay you 4 weeks and you’ll leave on 22nd.
In then becomes pride vs sense. They’ll want you to stay out of spite, but will soon realise how much harm you can cause by working to rule.
In then becomes pride vs sense. They’ll want you to stay out of spite, but will soon realise how much harm you can cause by working to rule.
Don't walk out and don't stop doing the right thing for the job you're in.
You are in a s
t situation, with a poor manager.
Re-tender your resignation making sure that you specify that the promises made to retain your services have failed to materialise. You can try to resurrect your original resignation but I doubt it will help.
As said, if your holiday has been signed off then you are entitled to it. Equally you must take your holidays, the business you're with know this and are ignoring it which is not good.
You are in a position to raise a grievance re both the holiday and resignation promises but it sounds like you will be just poking a wasps nest with a short stick.
Sounds like the sooner you find a new role the better. And before you have your mental health battered by a incompetent manager.
You are in a s
t situation, with a poor manager.Re-tender your resignation making sure that you specify that the promises made to retain your services have failed to materialise. You can try to resurrect your original resignation but I doubt it will help.
As said, if your holiday has been signed off then you are entitled to it. Equally you must take your holidays, the business you're with know this and are ignoring it which is not good.
You are in a position to raise a grievance re both the holiday and resignation promises but it sounds like you will be just poking a wasps nest with a short stick.
Sounds like the sooner you find a new role the better. And before you have your mental health battered by a incompetent manager.
When does your annual leave entitlement run from? If you’ve only had 2 days off since August you must have a few days holiday owning.
Have you signed to waive your rights under the Working Time Directive?
Who did you give your written resignation to? Did it get to HR?
What happened to your former line manager? Could you get a reference from them if they’ve left the company?
Have you signed to waive your rights under the Working Time Directive?
Who did you give your written resignation to? Did it get to HR?
What happened to your former line manager? Could you get a reference from them if they’ve left the company?
Brads67 said:
carinatauk said:
Don't walk out and don't stop doing the right thing for the job you're in.
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Really ?.
Just bin the job. 100 hrs a week for 25k, lol what a joke.
Walk straight out the door and dont't even tell them you're gone. If you go missing they will probably still pay you lol.
te reference for the future? What your suggesting is will not help the OP, sorry. Being big and bad won't solve the problem.carinatauk said:
Really, why would you want a ste reference for the future? What your suggesting is will not help the OP, sorry. Being big and bad won't solve the problem.
What kind of referance do you think you will get from a company that has treated you like trash until you have quit.te reference for the future? What your suggesting is will not help the OP, sorry. Being big and bad won't solve the problem.I'd rather face a new employer and tell them I had to make a difficult decision to leave.
Oh, and it'll make him feel better about himself.
Or he could stay being a doormat to a t
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