How can I cross the line into religious discrimination ?
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If I am hiring people into my business, I can apply wide ranging selection criteria. They don't target an accepted definition of a group but do impact a range of candidates. For instance, I can have a no facial tattoos rule, or require certain dress standards, and so on. I can also have candidates take an aptitude or IQ-type test and rule people out for low intelligence.
I can't target a specific religious group by refusing to hire Mormons or Buddhists. But can I apply the wide-ranging aptitude type of selection and say that if you are stupid enough to believe in any deity, you are too stupid to work in my business and therefore I won't hire you.
Is it religious discrimination to specify no religionists of any kind in a job recruitment ad ?
I can't target a specific religious group by refusing to hire Mormons or Buddhists. But can I apply the wide-ranging aptitude type of selection and say that if you are stupid enough to believe in any deity, you are too stupid to work in my business and therefore I won't hire you.
Is it religious discrimination to specify no religionists of any kind in a job recruitment ad ?
Newc said:
I can't target a specific religious group by refusing to hire Mormons or Buddhists. But can I apply the wide-ranging aptitude type of selection and say that if you are stupid enough to believe in any deity, you are too stupid to work in my business and therefore I won't hire you.
Is it religious discrimination to specify no religionists of any kind in a job recruitment ad ?
I'm an atheist. I firmly believe there is... nothing. Having said that, I don't believe all people who have faith are stupid. That would be stupid.Is it religious discrimination to specify no religionists of any kind in a job recruitment ad ?
It's unusual for an atheist to discriminate against someone of faith. Most religious discrimination tends to come from one faith group towards another.
You could claim it's against your religion to hire someone of another religion..... you're probably safe then
Just hire the best person for the job, there are plenty of mouth breathing idiots who are also atheist.
I draw the line at agnostics though...... make your bloody mind up!
You could claim it's against your religion to hire someone of another religion..... you're probably safe then
Just hire the best person for the job, there are plenty of mouth breathing idiots who are also atheist.
I draw the line at agnostics though...... make your bloody mind up!
Newc said:
If I am hiring people into my business, I can apply wide ranging selection criteria. They don't target an accepted definition of a group but do impact a range of candidates. For instance, I can have a no facial tattoos rule, or require certain dress standards, and so on. I can also have candidates take an aptitude or IQ-type test and rule people out for low intelligence.
I can't target a specific religious group by refusing to hire Mormons or Buddhists. But can I apply the wide-ranging aptitude type of selection and say that if you are stupid enough to believe in any deity, you are too stupid to work in my business and therefore I won't hire you.
Is it religious discrimination to specify no religionists of any kind in a job recruitment ad ?
Are you head of HR for the C of E?I can't target a specific religious group by refusing to hire Mormons or Buddhists. But can I apply the wide-ranging aptitude type of selection and say that if you are stupid enough to believe in any deity, you are too stupid to work in my business and therefore I won't hire you.
Is it religious discrimination to specify no religionists of any kind in a job recruitment ad ?
Based on your thread title are you looking for ways to cross that line?
To be clear, serious question, but only hypothetical. I am not actually implementing a hiring policy. I am interested in whether there's a point at which clearly defined legal concept of religious discrimination ("no Zoroastrians here") falls away because you make it a more general case ("no religions of any kind"). If so, where is that line drawn ?
Newc said:
If I am hiring people into my business, I can apply wide ranging selection criteria. They don't target an accepted definition of a group but do impact a range of candidates. For instance, I can have a no facial tattoos rule, or require certain dress standards, and so on. I can also have candidates take an aptitude or IQ-type test and rule people out for low intelligence.
I can't target a specific religious group by refusing to hire Mormons or Buddhists. But can I apply the wide-ranging aptitude type of selection and say that if you are stupid enough to believe in any deity, you are too stupid to work in my business and therefore I won't hire you.
Is it religious discrimination to specify no religionists of any kind in a job recruitment ad ?
I'd just like to take this opportunity to tell you that your books are bI can't target a specific religious group by refusing to hire Mormons or Buddhists. But can I apply the wide-ranging aptitude type of selection and say that if you are stupid enough to believe in any deity, you are too stupid to work in my business and therefore I won't hire you.
Is it religious discrimination to specify no religionists of any kind in a job recruitment ad ?
ks, Mr.Dawkins. 
The selection criteria for religious schools reminds me of the joke about the chap who was stopped at a roadblock in Northern Ireland. The masked assailants asked him if he was a protestant or a catholic. When he replied that he was an atheist they said: "are you a catholic atheist or a protestant atheist"
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