Working in the Middle East with no degree.
Working in the Middle East with no degree.
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Tony Starks

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2,362 posts

235 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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My wife is keen to spend a year or two teaching in the ME, but I have no degree or formal qualification for my job. I'm currently a workshop manager for a benchtop company.

Are there agency's that specialise in work for people like me or is my only option a house husband?

StevieT735

103 posts

165 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Depends on where you end up. UAE, Qatar or Oman may be possible to pick up local work. Saudi no chance, and I’d be surprised if it were possible in Kuwait. Expat jobs tend to require degrees unless you’re specialised in a particular role they can’t get anywhere else.

If your wife’s getting free accommodation with the job then I’d think it quite do-able to be a house husband, possibly a bit boring. However if not and she’s getting an allowance, you’ll need to evaluate wether that allowance will get you big enough accommodation for you both to live in....

rog007

5,821 posts

247 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Having a recognised formal qualification is in many cases stated as a mandatory requirement, but not always.

You could both start looking at jobs you could do and see what they’re asking for. The aim would be to start applying for jobs in those areas where you’ve both found a vacancy that your eligible to apply for.

For yourself, you would probably need to think about your skills and experiences and then how transferable they could be in to other roles you could do.

If you do come up against the need for formal qualifications for the roles you’re interested in, you could apply anyway to see if there’s interest in you or you could try and get qualified or even part qualified before you go. If there’s a shortage of applicants for a particular role, employers will be more flexible too.

Good luck!

Jasper3.0

652 posts

223 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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We are finding it harder and harder to get expats into Kuwait and Saudi without degrees. Which makes life very difficult, as the sector I am in does not have a tradition of degree qualifications for Supervisors / Superintendents. Even where we do have people in managerial positions clients are looking for individuals under 40 with 20 years experience and 10 (or more) in role.

GT03ROB

13,989 posts

244 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Where is she thinking of going? As others have said it varies country to country. In some it is irrelevant whether you could gt a job, you just won't get a work visa. In some such as Kuwait you also won't get a driving licence.

Bare in mind also the money as a teacher whilst better than UK may not compensate for you not working, with the expensive living in the gulf. The teachers I saw in Kuwait were generally young, single & lived frugally to pocket a few quid early in their careers.

StevieT735

103 posts

165 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Depends on where you end up. UAE, Qatar or Oman may be possible to pick up local work. Saudi no chance, and I’d be surprised if it were possible in Kuwait. Expat jobs tend to require degrees unless you’re specialised in a particular role they can’t get anywhere else.

If your wife’s getting free accommodation with the job then I’d think it quite do-able to be a house husband, possibly a bit boring. However if not and she’s getting an allowance, you’ll need to evaluate wether that allowance will get you big enough accommodation for you both to live in....

Tony Starks

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2,362 posts

235 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Not too sure, but she fancies Dubai or Bahrain.

One of her friends has recently been in Saudi teaching the lecturers children at a new uni. Her husband was like me and lots of practical experiance, but no qualifications. Unfortunately, they've put a stop to that.

So age is another limiting factor (I'm 42).

In terms of job wise, I'm guessing they'd be Financial/Oil based roles. Which tbh, going from running a small workshop of 10 guys, I'd be massively out of my depth.


petop

2,357 posts

189 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Recently i also have been looking for jobs in the ME and as previously said Saudi and Kuwait no chance without a degree. I have a good friend who works for big company. He said the same, mainly because of the Saudi thinking that a degree is the be all and end all coupled with "employee Saudi first" which they are struggling with lack of experience and work ethic in certain places. The other issue is those that have a "degree" and from those countries that tend to support call centers and can be employed on the Manager type roles and get paid pennies.

In the end i sacked it and got a lot better offer in the UK, paid for accom next to the work place, good salary+bonus with working abroad for periods which suits me.

Edited by petop on Monday 24th June 12:42

shirt

25,056 posts

224 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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I know loads of people here in the uae with no degree. Granted you will struggle to get into a traditional expat gig with accompanying salary level but there are options.

Tony Starks

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2,362 posts

235 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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A few of her friends have been and enjoyed it. I'd rather Japan or Korea. But shes the one with the degree lol

anonymous-user

77 months

Monday 25th March 2019
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Aren't there some form of fast track degrees that you can do online nowadays?

Move there, you study full time when she works and in a year or so you get your degree. It would hard slog but it could be of great benefit to you for the future.

Tony Starks

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2,362 posts

235 months

Tuesday 26th March 2019
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Thats actually an interesting idea thanks.

Now, how does someone with only a couple of GCSEs get a degree (it definitely wouldn't be a degree in English rofl).

singlecoil

35,775 posts

269 months

Tuesday 26th March 2019
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Tony Starks said:
Now, how does someone with only a couple of GCSEs get a degree (it definitely wouldn't be a degree in English rofl).
Studying hard is the usual way. What the entry qualifications to a degree course are will depend on the subject and the institution. Might be worth looking at some Open University courses to see what takes your fancy.

Tony Starks

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2,362 posts

235 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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Just a thought, my wife has expanded the areas to Japan, Hong Kong and South Korea.

Are there any companies the help arrange overseas apprenticeships? Being a hands on person more than academic I would be keen to do an electrical apprenticeship. And the Teaching wages would more than cover the loss in earnings being an apprentice.

Vaud

58,063 posts

178 months

Monday 24th June 2019
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Tony Starks said:
Thats actually an interesting idea thanks.

Now, how does someone with only a couple of GCSEs get a degree (it definitely wouldn't be a degree in English rofl).
Open university (maybe with an access course)

Jaybee1981

62 posts

142 months

Tuesday 25th June 2019
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DoubleTime said:
Aren't there some form of fast track degrees that you can do online nowadays?

Move there, you study full time when she works and in a year or so you get your degree. It would hard slog but it could be of great benefit to you for the future.
Be very careful of this.
Degrees need to be at least attested out here (which means the degree is recognised by both the UAE ministry of education and also the country in which its given)
At worst needs to be normalised (which means certain duration spent onsite at campus and duration).
I know some people who had a really hard time with normalisation after a doing an open uni degree.

There are ways round it though. most government companies use Long Term Contingency workers which means off the headcount and traditional Expat benefits but without the stringent education requirements etc...

Its definitely possible tho. I worked in UAE for 8 years before getting my degree. but only after getting it could I become an FTE and a manager.