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anonymous-user

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77 months

Sunday 7th April 2019
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I have an employee who I suspect of sharing information with his friend in a rival business via Skype. Can I just grab his laptop and check it to avoid him deleting the evidence? Appreciate he may feel affronted but he is likely to be leaving soon anyway.

Integroo

11,613 posts

108 months

Sunday 7th April 2019
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I don't know the answer to your question, it probably depends on your IT policies and employment contract, but if he has been sharing competitively sensitive information with a competitor you should seriously consider competition law risk and perhaps an approach to the CMA under its leniency program. Depends on the nature of the jnfo shared. Legal advice recommended.

williamp

20,119 posts

296 months

Sunday 7th April 2019
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Yes. Its the company computed, not theirs. You shuould have a policy explaining as such.

The data shardd could also be illegal:

https://ico.org.uk/action-weve-taken/enforcement/j...


GT03ROB

13,989 posts

244 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Not a problem. Are you also able to track data downloaded from company servers? This should provide more evidence,

Jasandjules

71,989 posts

252 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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It may be a problem.

What does your company computer use policy say?

t400ble

1,804 posts

144 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Just swap it for another

Sir Bagalot

6,885 posts

204 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Depends on your role within the firm

IT can create a problem on the laptop and when resolving will be able to have a look.

Vaud

58,076 posts

178 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Sir Bagalot said:
Depends on your role within the firm

IT can create a problem on the laptop and when resolving will be able to have a look.
They don't need to create a problem. They can just seize the company asset. They could just say "we think it has a virus that is impacting the network" if they want to give a reason.

rsbmw

3,466 posts

128 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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I don't get the impression that this is a company with IT policies and IT staff

Freakuk

4,406 posts

174 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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My question is what type of data?

Is it PII (personally identifiable information) or worse falls within the bounds of GDPR?

You may need to report this to the ICO and get ready for your pants to be pulled down.

Australiam

277 posts

152 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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As has been suggested, you have a legal obligation to protect personal information under the 2018 Data Protection Act (& the GDPR).

If you suspect that the employee is leaking data that could include personal information (names, e-mail addresses and phone numbers included as they can identify the individual), then you must act (if there has been a breach, then you are already non-compliant, not to then take action would be viewed dimly). OK, if it is only a record or two, then the ICO will have bigger issues to deal with, but it does give you an idea of where the law stands on it.

Your employment contracts and staff privacy notices should highlight that in order to meet your legal obligations, you require full access to company resources, PC's, emails systems etc. Upon realising the legal requirements, many companies took the opportunity to update their written and procedural policies and contracts to meet their new obligations.

BYOD makes this particularly challenging, which is why the company policies should be very carefully considered.

Jasandjules

71,989 posts

252 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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And what if the employee has personal data on that laptop.

Do you have a Policy in place to enable you to access it yes or no?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

77 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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It’s not personal data, simply test results. Thanks for suggestions. I’ll check them out.

Freakuk

4,406 posts

174 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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MikeStroud said:
It’s not personal data, simply test results. Thanks for suggestions. I’ll check them out.
A breach is a breach though

GipsyHillClimber

129 posts

117 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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Freakuk said:
A breach is a breach though
Not all breaches are equal from a liability perspective. If the shared/leaked data had any PII and the breach wasn't assessed dealt with then OPs firm could get a real spanking from the ICO. Sharing other data may solely be a breach of internal policy or the employees contract which can be dealt with internally.

I imagine any firm that hands out laptops to employees has at least an off the shelf policy which would detail that the content of the device are not theirs and can be subject to monitoring etc. If not then just mug him in the car park.

Jasandjules

71,989 posts

252 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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MikeStroud said:
It’s not personal data, simply test results. Thanks for suggestions. I’ll check them out.
You misunderstand. HE may have personal data on the laptop, now if you access that....... Do you have a policy in place that states anything on the business computer belongs to the business?

xyyman

1,101 posts

248 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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I had this issue a three or four years back. We monitored e mail traffic form the servers to gather evidence which the employee was unaware of.

Errant employee was dismissed for gross misconduct but refused to surrender his company laptop. We recovered the laptop from employees home address which is another story.

However the whole process was carried out under the advice and management by a major international law firm specialising in employment law, so all perfectly legal.

Personal data from the works laptop was recovered and provided on a hard drive back to the employee.

Jasandjules

71,989 posts

252 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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xyyman said:
I had this issue a three or four years back. We monitored e mail traffic form the servers to gather evidence which the employee was unaware of.
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And you no doubt have a policy regarding Computer Use which enables monitoring and so on...….. The OP is silent on that material fact.

Sa Calobra

40,661 posts

234 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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rsbmw said:
I don't get the impression that this is a company with IT policies and IT staff
+1

If it's a recruitment agency type business isn't that how all agencies start up including your own/your employers?



xyyman

1,101 posts

248 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Jasandjules said:
And you no doubt have a policy regarding Computer Use which enables monitoring and so on...….. The OP is silent on that material fact.
Yes, as a FCA regulated company, we do and it has passed muster with the regulator. Regulated, or unregulated, it would be very unwise not to have such a policy.