massive change in job req = redundant?
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the mrs has been doing nanny work for the past 4 years
3 days including overnight looking after 2 kids
boss has lost her job and suggested she can afford 1 day of housework instead
my thoughts are job description /hours are significantly changed , she should be made redundant with the notice and pay that the law suggests and the boss can offer her the alternate 1 days work if they can agree on terms?
accepting the fewer hours /pay cut would lose her rights to the full redundancy pay if in a few months boss decides she cant afford anything ?
any thoughts please
3 days including overnight looking after 2 kids
boss has lost her job and suggested she can afford 1 day of housework instead
my thoughts are job description /hours are significantly changed , she should be made redundant with the notice and pay that the law suggests and the boss can offer her the alternate 1 days work if they can agree on terms?
accepting the fewer hours /pay cut would lose her rights to the full redundancy pay if in a few months boss decides she cant afford anything ?
any thoughts please
Jasandjules said:
It could potentially be constructive dismissal but would need a fair bit more info.... The fundamental question however is what is your OH willing to do about it?
afaik contract say as above 3 days /nights £xxxshe would take the 1 day as its better than nothing while looking for something more suitable
just wanted to know the correct way an employer should do this? being a family that employs her obviously they dont have a HR dept and possibly a bit naive about it , but if theres a few grand coming our way we want it
BaronVonVaderham said:
steveo3002 said:
being a family that employs her obviously they dont have a HR dept and possibly a bit naive about it , but if theres a few grand coming our way we want it
Nice. 
Probably not the best support for somebody who's given employment and lost their job.
If employer is family has PAYE been operated?
steveo3002 said:
afaik contract say as above 3 days /nights £xxx
she would take the 1 day as its better than nothing while looking for something more suitable
just wanted to know the correct way an employer should do this? being a family that employs her obviously they dont have a HR dept and possibly a bit naive about it , but if theres a few grand coming our way we want it
I don't often comment on these sorts of threads, but come on. The reason for the reduction in hours is because the person paying the wages has lost their job and can't afford it now... "but if theres a few grand coming our way we want it". she would take the 1 day as its better than nothing while looking for something more suitable
just wanted to know the correct way an employer should do this? being a family that employs her obviously they dont have a HR dept and possibly a bit naive about it , but if theres a few grand coming our way we want it
People don't give a s
t about anyone else anymore.AS62 said:
I don't often comment on these sorts of threads, but come on. The reason for the reduction in hours is because the person paying the wages has lost their job and can't afford it now... "but if theres a few grand coming our way we want it".
People don't give a st about anyone else anymore.
A bit more of a direct response People don't give a s
t about anyone else anymore.
Check the contract.
Our Au Pair / Nanny contract is drawn up via the agency we use (we have 12hrs /wk + 1 night) that do all the PAYE as well.
Zero hours contract.
One week notice pay, average hours of the last 13 weeks. We were told this was standard "good practise" template, but legally, we're well above minimum.
Goes to two weeks + 1 wk / yr after 2 years.
Our Au Pair / Nanny contract is drawn up via the agency we use (we have 12hrs /wk + 1 night) that do all the PAYE as well.
Zero hours contract.
One week notice pay, average hours of the last 13 weeks. We were told this was standard "good practise" template, but legally, we're well above minimum.
Goes to two weeks + 1 wk / yr after 2 years.
AS62 said:
steveo3002 said:
afaik contract say as above 3 days /nights £xxx
she would take the 1 day as its better than nothing while looking for something more suitable
just wanted to know the correct way an employer should do this? being a family that employs her obviously they dont have a HR dept and possibly a bit naive about it , but if theres a few grand coming our way we want it
I don't often comment on these sorts of threads, but come on. The reason for the reduction in hours is because the person paying the wages has lost their job and can't afford it now... "but if theres a few grand coming our way we want it". she would take the 1 day as its better than nothing while looking for something more suitable
just wanted to know the correct way an employer should do this? being a family that employs her obviously they dont have a HR dept and possibly a bit naive about it , but if theres a few grand coming our way we want it
People don't give a s
t about anyone else anymore.The OP might have phrased it better, but if they are due to have some sort payment as a safety net against sudden loss of income why shouldn't they see whats available to them.
steveo3002 said:
Some Gump said:
Yeah, stick it to em!
It's not like nannying would require a good reference or anything...
so what do you suggest- snivel away without pay ?It's not like nannying would require a good reference or anything...
law is law no?
You may not have meant it but you've not come across well.
steveo3002 said:
the boss was likley on 100k , its not like were having the last fiver out of someones purse
if theres redundency pay to be had we need it , will struggle now
Likely on 100k, could be much less. Likely with very high outgoings and may have a real struggle now.if theres redundency pay to be had we need it , will struggle now
Your attitude of "we want money" is shocking. Nannying was never a job that would last forever.
If a company folds it's not a case for everyone gets a payout. This is just a family, far from being a company.
She lost her job she is willing to keep your wife employed but needs to reduce her hours as she can’t afford it anymore. I think the boss was nice to still offer some work. You trying to get a couple grand because law is law is a bit poor in the sense they are just a family that feel in hard times. You mention they were in 100k so that’s fine because they are rich...
Anyway couldn’t the boss just serve your wife the notice on the contract? and hire someone else in 6 months time?
Anyway couldn’t the boss just serve your wife the notice on the contract? and hire someone else in 6 months time?
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