Long employment awards
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Tobeman

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156 posts

172 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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Quick query on the above.

Employer is introducing the above for various lengths of service.

I left firm A to join firm B, headhunted, and subsequently firm B and firm A merged 14 months after I left firm A. Small world, don't burn bridges and all that. I worked my entire notice, beyond it in fact as I.T. dept locked my account at 5:45pm on my last day. I was going for a pee at the time and couldn't unlock to continue! So... I'd consider myself a good leaver.

Anyway - I enquired to HR whether those new long-service awards would apply for me given my tenure at the original firm which has merged with my current employer.

However I've been told that given I resigned there was a break in my service. What are the views on this? I literally had a few days off after finishing as it was a big birthday and started the very next day, took no employment elsewhere in the meantime, handed the P45 to Firm B from Firm A.

Am I asking too much for 12 years prior service to be recognised, or do I not have a leg to stand on? Thoughts welcome!

MissChief

7,835 posts

191 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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Sounds right tbh. You ‘left’ the main company and if that’s who is looking at the length of service they’re right IMO.

Drumroll

4,361 posts

143 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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Tobeman said:
Quick query on the above.

Employer is introducing the above for various lengths of service.

I left firm A to join firm B, headhunted, and subsequently firm B and firm A merged 14 months after I left firm A. Small world, don't burn bridges and all that. I worked my entire notice, beyond it in fact as I.T. dept locked my account at 5:45pm on my last day. I was going for a pee at the time and couldn't unlock to continue! So... I'd consider myself a good leaver.

Anyway - I enquired to HR whether those new long-service awards would apply for me given my tenure at the original firm which has merged with my current employer.

However I've been told that given I resigned there was a break in my service. What are the views on this? I literally had a few days off after finishing as it was a big birthday and started the very next day, took no employment elsewhere in the meantime, handed the P45 to Firm B from Firm A.

Am I asking too much for 12 years prior service to be recognised, or do I not have a leg to stand on? Thoughts welcome!
seems perfectly fair to me, you left the company, the fact your subsequent employer got taken over is irreverent. Having said that it is likely that if you had been employed by company B that subsequently got taken over you would be entitled to a long service award.

Scrump

23,727 posts

181 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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You don't have a leg to stand on.

Tobeman

Original Poster:

156 posts

172 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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Thought as much. Thanks all.

Yep... And I had a load of share options I gave up as well. When it rains, it pours.

matrignano

4,673 posts

233 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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Tobeman said:
Thought as much. Thanks all.

Yep... And I had a load of share options I gave up as well. When it rains, it pours.
You should always get your shares/share options bought out by your new employer...

zippy3x

1,365 posts

290 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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If it means that much try here

https://www.afordawards.co.uk/crystal/premium-crys...

put as many years on as you want. Make it big. Feel the respect of your peers flow in.

just get them to engrave the words "Not an actual award" in tiny font to cover the legal aspect.

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

168 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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25 years at my place last summer, what did I get, a certificate, not framed or anything, printed off on the work laser printer! mad

The company that owned us before this company took that one over did at least offer a selection of something from a catalogue. What I didn't know at the time of selecting my item (for 20 years) was that it was treated as a BIK, at whatever value the company decided it was probably RRP, and tax deductible so I ended up out of pocket for something I didn't really need that much cry

GT72

6,581 posts

202 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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zippy3x said:
If it means that much try here

https://www.afordawards.co.uk/crystal/premium-crys...

put as many years on as you want. Make it big. Feel the respect of your peers flow in.

just get them to engrave the words "Not an actual award" in tiny font to cover the legal aspect.
Not everyone works for a st employer. I received my second long service award last year - 20 extra days holiday which have to be taken in a single holiday, plus some spending money - we had a great time travelling around Malaysia for a month. Only 3 more years until my next one, happy days.

BIGDAI

412 posts

234 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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My dad's long service award in the 70's: Overnight in a hotel in Blackpool, with my mum. Big presentation "do". Everyone brought up on stage individually to be presented by some bigwig and then invited to say a few words (presumably about how wonderful the company was).

Dad's turn comes along and he is presented with a matching set including an onyx cigarette case, onyx table cigarette box and an onyx cigarette lighter (did I mention it was the 70's?). When asked to say his piece, dad said "I've worked for this company for 25 years .... and none of you bds know I don't smoke!" and left the gifts on the stage as he walked off.

When checking out of the hotel the following morning he discovered that the company weren't covering the hotel costs and he had to pay for him and mum .... he was less than impressed!

Countdown

47,251 posts

219 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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Long Service Awards recognise that you stayed with a firm for a “long time”. You didn’t. You left Firm A (presumably because Firm B made you a better offer). So I’d be in the “no Leg” camp.

cml24

1,550 posts

170 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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The long holiday sounds like a great reward! I'd love that.

We get a small bonus and an extra days holiday added to our yearly allowance. Can't complain too much!

What sort of rewards are we talking about OP?

Narcisus

8,861 posts

303 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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I had £250 at 25 years. Now at 32 think the next one is 40 or 45... I’m not holding my breath ..

AndyAudi

3,756 posts

245 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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If when you left co A to join co B you got paid for any unused holidays, would you think it ok for them to have asked for that back because you used them under co B?

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

123 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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I'll get a £500 gift when I make it to 20 years, and then again at 20 years and also at 25 years. Has to be a tangible gift, rather than cash.

Also in the anniversary year at 5, 10 and 15 years you get an extra couple of day's holiday in that year, and after 20 years you get a permanent 5 days extra leave per year to take

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

196 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Ours is,

£50 voucher and a paperweight at 5 years.
3 course meal with others of the same start year, a number of free drinks and a slate coaster at 10 years
£2500 long service bonus and 2 extra weeks holiday for that year at 15 years
£5000 long service bonus and 4 extra weeks holiday for that year at 20 years
£7500 long service bonus and 6 extra weeks holiday for that year at 25 years

I'm fairly happy with it but it only just changed to that, prior to that there were share options which were much more lucrative!

in answer to OP, sorry but I think you're out of luck there.

Edit, forgot to add the 5 year and 10 year awards.


Edited by ZOLLAR on Monday 20th January 16:40

DanL

6,582 posts

288 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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I've got 20 years total at my company - got a 10 year service award last year, as I left for a bit then returned. As has been covered, I'm afraid you're out of luck unless someone's feeling generous!

MissChief

7,835 posts

191 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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ZOLLAR said:
Ours is,

£50 voucher and a paperweight at 5 years.
3 course meal with others of the same start year, a number of free drinks and a slate coaster at 10 years
£2500 long service bonus and 2 extra weeks holiday for that year at 15 years
£5000 long service bonus and 4 extra weeks holiday for that year at 20 years
£7500 long service bonus and 6 extra weeks holiday for that year at 25 years

I'm fairly happy with it but it only just changed to that, prior to that there were share options which were much more lucrative!

in answer to OP, sorry but I think you're out of luck there.

Edit, forgot to add the 5 year and 10 year awards.


Edited by ZOLLAR on Monday 20th January 16:40
Holy Crap. That's good. We get a choice of techy gadgets but nothing as big or good as £2,500 as at 15 years which I'll be coming up to in 2021.

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

196 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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MissChief said:
Holy Crap. That's good. We get a choice of techy gadgets but nothing as big or good as £2,500 as at 15 years which I'll be coming up to in 2021.
Aye can't complaint, previously it was 250 shares at 15, 500 at 20 and 750 at 25.
The share price is around £23.00 atm so a bit of a financial difference but there were valid reasons to change it and share prices go down as well as up!


heisthegaffer

4,100 posts

221 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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ZOLLAR said:
Aye can't complaint, previously it was 250 shares at 15, 500 at 20 and 750 at 25.
The share price is around £23.00 atm so a bit of a financial difference but there were valid reasons to change it and share prices go down as well as up!
Do you work for an Insurer or (more likely) a broker?