Same Job - £8k reduction in a week ?
Same Job - £8k reduction in a week ?
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snuffy

Original Poster:

12,237 posts

307 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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I might be wrong, but last Friday an agency sent me this:

I wanted to discuss a new opportunity for a Control Systems Engineer based in Warrington. This is an exciting opportunity for a Controls Systems Engineer to be part of a growing business and taking key responsibilities to take on fresh challenges, develop your technical and interpersonal skills as well as expand your knowledge and experience through a variety of exciting projects.

To succeed as a Control Systems Engineer you'll have significant experience in one of the following mainstream PLC / SCADA systems is required. Siemens S7/300, S7/400, S5, Allen Bradley SLC500, PLC5. In addition, to this if you have Project Management skills this will hold you in good stead .

In return, you’ll receive a competitive salary of £38,000 - £48,000

and just now this has arrived:

I wanted to discuss a new opportunity for a Control Systems Engineer based in Warrington. This is an exciting opportunity for a Controls Systems Engineer to be part of a growing business and taking key responsibilities to take on fresh challenges, develop your technical and interpersonal skills as well as expand your knowledge and experience through a variety of exciting projects.

To succeed as a Control Systems Engineer you'll have experience in one of the following mainstream PLC / SCADA systems is required. Siemens s7, WinCC and TIA Portal.

In return, you’ll receive a competitive salary of £30,000 - £40,000

Whilst the wording isn't 100% identical, it looks awfully like exactly the same role to me, only £8k less in a week.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,757 posts

258 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Looks to me to be 2 different jobs, but lazy agency is using the same template.


p4cks

7,336 posts

222 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Delete the second one.

You're welcome.

snuffy

Original Poster:

12,237 posts

307 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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It's exactly the same skill set (software wise), apart from the project management bit on the first one.

It just made me wonder because I remember in 2008 I started getting agency emails offering more and more absurdly low salaries and/or contract rates as companies were just trying it one big time.

Sheepshanks

39,241 posts

142 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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First one is prepared to pay more for someone with project management skills?

snuffy

Original Poster:

12,237 posts

307 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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p4cks said:
Delete the second one.

You're welcome.
Actually I deleted them both, I had to fish the first one out of the recycle bin.

snuffy

Original Poster:

12,237 posts

307 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Sheepshanks said:
First one is prepared to pay more for someone with project management skills?
Well, you might be right of course. And as I say, I can't be certain it's the same job.

fourstardan

6,205 posts

167 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Reality is the second one is probably what they'll pay and it was a more "trustworthy" recruiter.

snuffy

Original Poster:

12,237 posts

307 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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fourstardan said:
Reality is the second one is probably what they'll pay and it was a more "trustworthy" recruiter.
Both came from the recruiter, just 7 days apart.

Countdown

47,251 posts

219 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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I've seen the same job (Finance industry) advertised by different agencies with a £10k "spread". I've even seen jobs that I have asked to be advertised directly, being offered by Agencies with a salary £5k-£10k more than we would pay.

if they are ever challenged on this their excuse is either "well, we would negotiate more for you" or "It includes pension and other non-cash benefits" or some other excuse. The reason they do it is to attract the most Applicants, and then one of the 1st questions they'll ask is "Are you applying anywhere else"

As somebody else above said - this looks like a lazy Agent using the same job advert template for 2 different roles.