Essential workers.
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Calamityspice

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16 posts

141 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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So, essential workers can travel to work earning 100% pay, but everyone else can stay at home on 80% doing nothing?

Sorry for being a long time lurker, but does this seem fair?

I understand that we are in exceptional circumstances.

For reference, I work for a company that will be staying open for the moment. Their name might rhyme with a certain very exclusive bank.

We've had some bog roll in recently, & last night, some hand sanitiser. Although I suspect that will be going to the staff.

Sent via FedEx so probably zero profit.

In another note, Holland & Barrett have hand sanitiser for all you hoarders.

Cheers.



Edited by Calamityspice on Tuesday 24th March 05:49

Oldandslow

2,405 posts

229 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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I'm confused. I thought you could travel to work as long as the travel was necessary for the work.

I can't work from home unless they install a production line in my living room.

Sheetmaself

6,070 posts

221 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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I agree it’s completely unfair. I’m an essential worker so have to go into work and deal with these fkwits who won’t self isolate and run around thinking the world owes them a good life. On top of that my commuting costs are around 20% of my pay so not even any better off than if I were able to stay at home where I would be a lot safer.

I think that was your point anyway.

Oldandslow

2,405 posts

229 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Sheetmaself said:
I agree it’s completely unfair. I’m an essential worker so have to go into work and deal with these fkwits who won’t self isolate and run around thinking the world owes them a good life. On top of that my commuting costs are around 20% of my pay so not even any better off than if I were able to stay at home where I would be a lot safer.

I think that was your point anyway.
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Driver101

14,451 posts

144 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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I'm sure in a week or two those sitting about the house will be happy to swap places.

Your 100% of your wage will be guaranteed. For some reason I've a feeling it won't be so easy for many to get their 80%. There will be a lot of people where the 80%, with the £2500 gross, isn't anywhere close to 80% of their salary.

Douglas Quaid

2,615 posts

108 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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surely most couples would just about survive if they were pulling £2500 each and not going out anywhere to spend. I wouldn’t have huge sympathy for people complaining if they were being given that and complaining it’s not enough.

milkround

1,326 posts

102 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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I drive lorries. I hate it with a passion that most will never understand. I literally feel sadness everytime I climb into a cab and insert my digital tachohtaph card.

But if me doing the puts food on the table for people. Or it gives medicines to those in need I'd do it for nothing.

Words are empty but I have a mother with serious long term health problems. An aunt with serious medical problems. A 94 year old grandmother. And a brother who has severe epilepsy and mild brain damage after a prolonged seizure whilst he was sleeping as a child.

Tbh I don't really care about 80 percent, 100 percent or zero percent pay. It's a sad indictment of society when we care more about cash and idleness than our own species.

anonymous-user

77 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Calamityspice said:
So, essential workers can travel to work earning 100% pay, but everyone else can stay at home on 80% doing nothing?
.....Does this seem fair?
Yes, because even on 80%/£2500 a lot of people will still be earning no less than a nurse.

Bill

57,279 posts

278 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Calamityspice said:
So, essential workers can travel to work earning 100% pay, but everyone else can stay at home on 80% doing nothing?

Sorry for being a long time lurker, but does this seem fair?
More than fair. The alternative is staying at home on benefits.


Pothole

34,367 posts

305 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Calamityspice said:
So, essential workers can travel to work earning 100% pay, but everyone else can stay at home on 80% doing nothing?

Sorry for being a long time lurker, but does this seem fair?

I understand that we are in exceptional circumstances.

For reference, I work for a company that will be staying open for the moment. Their name might rhyme with a certain very exclusive bank.

We've had some bog roll in recently, & last night, some hand sanitiser. Although I suspect that will be going to the staff.

Sent via FedEx so probably zero profit.

In another note, Holland & Barrett have hand sanitiser for all you hoarders.

Cheers.



Edited by Calamityspice on Tuesday 24th March 05:49
3 posts in 6 years? It took a global disaster, eh?

Bill

57,279 posts

278 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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The 80% is for those whose jobs are gone. Not for those who fancy a break.

And the keyworker childcare is only if needed, not as respite for your wife because the risk is your toddler will bring it back.

Spare tyre

12,032 posts

153 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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The essential work thing caused confusion in our house, the message wasn’t clear. Thankfully my wife could email her boss last night and said she had to still go in. Her role is by no means essential, but her work will look for any excuse to be dicks if she didn’t turn up.


The other thing that is annoying me somewhat is the average working man is faced with various issues at this time....

My old scumbag professional benefit brigade family neighbours are probably getting 100% “pay”, I guess the only saving grace is their USA trip and numerous Spanish holidays will be up in the air at the moment AND their hundred of horrible kids are all at home (poor kids)

Genuine benefit claimants I have no issue with.

GAjon

4,003 posts

236 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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I was pondering about essential workers last night.

Health service workers (all levels consultants to cleaners)
Food production.
Distribution.
Utilities. Supply ,delivery and maintenance.

All kinds of what are considered ordinary and mundane.

Then I wondered why are actors, sports stars, artist paid so much money, they’re now virtually useless!

Just a thought.

Davie

5,915 posts

238 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Sports Direct is essential seemingly. Kinda sums up the council / doesn't include me bruv attitude that many have in this country which is why I think we're in for a tougher time than those countries where the population tow the line a bit more.

Sophisticated Sarah

15,078 posts

192 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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GAjon said:
I was pondering about essential workers last night.

Health service workers (all levels consultants to cleaners)
Food production.
Distribution.
Utilities. Supply ,delivery and maintenance.

All kinds of what are considered ordinary and mundane.

Then I wondered why are actors, sports stars, artist paid so much money, they’re now virtually useless!

Just a thought.
Once this is all over, normality will resume and supermarket workers will find themselves sneered at once more, nurses will be undervalued still, HR/finance will continue looking at ways of cutting the wage bill for them.

Pothole

34,367 posts

305 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Spare tyre said:
Genuine benefit claimants I have no issue with.
As long as you get to choose who's genuine?

Kev_Mk3

3,413 posts

118 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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I will add alot of people are calling for payment holidays on loans / mortgages etc but are already in arrears / behind with payments.

Because of this they are no able to have the 3 month holidays as its not corona related.


I am a key worker and sort of deal with the above hence the comment but I have been advised I can go home full pay as my wife is at home in isolation pregnant.

MattCharlton91

326 posts

163 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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It’s a tough one. I’m a self employed fencing contractor.

As it stands there’s nothing in place for the self employed other than SSP.

I’m faced with a moral dilemma, I can’t afford to sit at home for 3weeks (as a minimum), my suppliers are currently still operating to the trade only and on a limited scale. My work is by no means key or essential, but is considered part of the construction industry. My business is in its infancy still, so we haven’t got a big cash pot to sit on, as it stands we’re still pretty week-to-week. There’s enough cash in the pot where as I can stay off for probably two weeks, so do I carry on and save as much as humanly possible until complete lock down, or knock it on the head now and face the financial implications in the coming weeks.


StevenB

783 posts

220 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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I think we could add refuse collections to the keys workers list,

Bill

57,279 posts

278 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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MattCharlton91 said:
It’s a tough one. I’m a self employed fencing contractor.

As it stands there’s nothing in place for the self employed other than SSP.

I’m faced with a moral dilemma, I can’t afford to sit at home for 3weeks (as a minimum), my suppliers are currently still operating to the trade only and on a limited scale. My work is by no means key or essential, but is considered part of the construction industry. My business is in its infancy still, so we haven’t got a big cash pot to sit on, as it stands we’re still pretty week-to-week. There’s enough cash in the pot where as I can stay off for probably two weeks, so do I carry on and save as much as humanly possible until complete lock down, or knock it on the head now and face the financial implications in the coming weeks.
You can't work from home, you're not in retail. Assuming you/your family aren't high risk then carry on. But (obviously) keep apart, don't pick up workmates etc.