Holidays cancelled - have to save them for sick days
Holidays cancelled - have to save them for sick days
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macstorm73

Original Poster:

94 posts

96 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Hi,
The company I work for has told us that all holidays are now cancelled and that we can not book any for the rest of the year. The reason that they have given us is that we need to save the holiday entitlement to use as sick days if we are ill.

Are they allowed to do this ? We have also been told that we are not allowed to take unpaid leave if we need the occasional day.

In my contract it says that we are not allowed to carry over holiday from one year to the next, so assuming that I get lucky and I am not ill, that means I would loose all of my holiday (they refuse to state if they would change this.

We have also been told that new contracts will be issued, with terms stating that they can put us on short time and reduce the wages by an unspecified amount without notice and that no limit to the reduction has yet to be decided. HR indicate that the notice period may be dropped from 3 months to 2 weeks in the new contracts.


Steve H

6,881 posts

218 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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A lot of that sounds highly dubious but I’m sure others can confirm in detail.


Is it a particularly well paid job now?

macstorm73

Original Poster:

94 posts

96 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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48k so not too bad.. IT management

Wonderman

2,918 posts

218 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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How long have you worked with them?

Either way I'd be applying my arse to get away from them, sounds like a bunch of wkers.

macstorm73

Original Poster:

94 posts

96 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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10 months or so...

Brads67

3,199 posts

121 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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In a word, no, they are not allowed to do this.

If you are sick, call in sick. If they do not allow you to use holidays, carry them over. If they do not allow this, take them to task.
Are you in a union ?

macstorm73

Original Poster:

94 posts

96 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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not in a union and we are not allowed to carry days over as per our current contracts.. just thinking that they may be in breach of my contract if they stick to this (have the holiday item in the new policies that HR sent out)

Brads67

3,199 posts

121 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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If you are not allowed carry over they are in breach of contract to refuse you use of your holiday entitlement.

They are also breaking the law in making you use it for sickness absence .

Mr Pointy

12,800 posts

182 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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This is likley to be one of those situations where you're going to have to take a pragmatic view: how badly do you want to keep your job in the current situation? You haven't been there two years so you may be liable to being released without reason & any legal challenge to what they are propsing will take a lot of time.

You might consider a job in the hand is worth holding on to & then look elsewhere in a few months time. Look on the bright side, if you find one then a two weeks notice period could be very useful.

steveo3002

11,056 posts

197 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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i think id suck it up and be pleased i still have job for now , if and when things improve then go elsewhere

macstorm73

Original Poster:

94 posts

96 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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ive just landed a new role, interview process was via webex contract just sent off.. now they want me to stick to notice period as i am so vital all of a suden

redandwhite

501 posts

152 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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that was quick, guess it was already in the pipeline. best of luck

macstorm73

Original Poster:

94 posts

96 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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it was, I'd spoken to them before this all kicked off, they need to ramp up their IT staff so calleed and asked if I was still available.. so jumped at the offer. Current place have decided that they dont want to change my notice period now as it would leave them stuffed.. I am still going to the new place as I'v seen the true colours of my current place