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Not a car related thread but know I can rely on phers for Frank advice
So here's my situation
I work for a large bank, just received a text from my boss on a presentation for management I did, asking for a clarity on one of the numbers, duly explained within 15 mins of getting the text (didn't see the message on my phone). To which the reply was why was this explanation not included explained I thought I had it covered as per my understanding though accepting i perhaps should have added the detail apologised and left it at that, mins later I get a text saying do u think that will cut it - we'll talk tomorrow
So now here's my predicament obviously the night before the papers have gone out and it's too late to change therefore this is spilt milk so not much I can do to rectify, tomorrow when I have the call the conversation will go along the lines of this is your mess up etc etc, you know how important it is to get it right, now that's fine issue is I'll poasibly get a formal warning but what would you guys do in your own defence how would your deal with this?
So here's my situation
I work for a large bank, just received a text from my boss on a presentation for management I did, asking for a clarity on one of the numbers, duly explained within 15 mins of getting the text (didn't see the message on my phone). To which the reply was why was this explanation not included explained I thought I had it covered as per my understanding though accepting i perhaps should have added the detail apologised and left it at that, mins later I get a text saying do u think that will cut it - we'll talk tomorrow
So now here's my predicament obviously the night before the papers have gone out and it's too late to change therefore this is spilt milk so not much I can do to rectify, tomorrow when I have the call the conversation will go along the lines of this is your mess up etc etc, you know how important it is to get it right, now that's fine issue is I'll poasibly get a formal warning but what would you guys do in your own defence how would your deal with this?
Put a copy of the yellow pages down the back of your shorts...
Seriously though, just get the time line of events clear in your head.
Bat the criticism away with ' it seemed apparent to me at the time that this information was correct and it's source seemed obvious, I didn't want to dilute the presentation by over egging the detail, it's the message that counts. It won't happen again and your well made points are duly noted'.
They can't sack you, it's not gross mis-conduct. They can give you a warning and it'll be a bit s
t for a while.
Seriously though, just get the time line of events clear in your head.
Bat the criticism away with ' it seemed apparent to me at the time that this information was correct and it's source seemed obvious, I didn't want to dilute the presentation by over egging the detail, it's the message that counts. It won't happen again and your well made points are duly noted'.
They can't sack you, it's not gross mis-conduct. They can give you a warning and it'll be a bit s
t for a while.Take the wind out of their sails...
Have the call, straight away acknowledge the error, put your hands up, ensure them it won’t happen again.
Really hard to dish out a bking to someone who’s already held their hands up.
Appreciate you may not actually think you’ve made a mistake, but there’s no prizes for arguing the toss. Front it, own it and move on - a decent boss will admire the maturity and a stty boss will be gobsmacked.
Have the call, straight away acknowledge the error, put your hands up, ensure them it won’t happen again.
Really hard to dish out a b
king to someone who’s already held their hands up. Appreciate you may not actually think you’ve made a mistake, but there’s no prizes for arguing the toss. Front it, own it and move on - a decent boss will admire the maturity and a s
tty boss will be gobsmacked. Rakip123 said:
Not a car related thread but know I can rely on phers for Frank advice
So here's my situation
I work for a large bank, just received a text from my boss on a presentation for management I did, asking for a clarity on one of the numbers, duly explained within 15 mins of getting the text (didn't see the message on my phone). To which the reply was why was this explanation not included explained I thought I had it covered as per my understanding though accepting i perhaps should have added the detail apologised and left it at that, mins later I get a text saying do u think that will cut it - we'll talk tomorrow
So now here's my predicament obviously the night before the papers have gone out and it's too late to change therefore this is spilt milk so not much I can do to rectify, tomorrow when I have the call the conversation will go along the lines of this is your mess up etc etc, you know how important it is to get it right, now that's fine issue is I'll possibly get a formal warning but what would you guys do in your own defence how would your deal with this?
Not a lot you can do unfortunately. Apologise wholeheartedly, use it as a learning point and move on. As you say, there's no point in crying over spilt milk..So here's my situation
I work for a large bank, just received a text from my boss on a presentation for management I did, asking for a clarity on one of the numbers, duly explained within 15 mins of getting the text (didn't see the message on my phone). To which the reply was why was this explanation not included explained I thought I had it covered as per my understanding though accepting i perhaps should have added the detail apologised and left it at that, mins later I get a text saying do u think that will cut it - we'll talk tomorrow
So now here's my predicament obviously the night before the papers have gone out and it's too late to change therefore this is spilt milk so not much I can do to rectify, tomorrow when I have the call the conversation will go along the lines of this is your mess up etc etc, you know how important it is to get it right, now that's fine issue is I'll possibly get a formal warning but what would you guys do in your own defence how would your deal with this?
As the saying goes, the person who hasn't made a mistake probably hasn't made much.
I'm guessing you are reasonably junior and your boss was passing your (probably very good) work off as his and he got asked about the numbers and couldn't explain, hence he's feeling a bit sore as he looked a bit of an idiot to his and your management, who probably knew it wasn't his work anyway...
If you think he is being a dick tell him straight to his face... I learned this lesson at around 25 when I decided I would not take anymore #hit from dhead managers.
Not been sacked yet and the managers including directors always changed their attitude towards me after.
I'm now 51 and out of work ....
No i'm not
but of course telling the manager how it is always has that risk ..
head managers.Not been sacked yet and the managers including directors always changed their attitude towards me after.
I'm now 51 and out of work ....
No i'm not
but of course telling the manager how it is always has that risk ..Pothole said:
Do managers really use that kind of language in 2020? What a prize tt. OP: is that the best job in your field?
The workplace culture is frankness so the opening speech to new joiners from head of tech is this is the way we do business you either fit or you don't.t. OP: is that the best job in your field?In this climate mate I don't fancy the outlook on the job market
Jasandjules said:
You did not make a mistake but did not include sufficient detail is that the long and short of it?
Yup that's exactly it, the explanation I provided wasn't in the required detail, team culture is though that's as good as wrong so whichever way you take that, from my end I double triple checked before I submitted, I just didn't realise she needed that level of detail, just need a game plan for tomorrowIf I received a text like that, the sender would need a rectal examination to help retrieve their phone!
Sounds like a st boss: That is the reaction of someone who is a dick or under stress or both. Find out what caused the rant, either take the feedback onboard and learn from it or Dust of your CV and look for a job working for someone who will appreciate your efforts and look to be supportive and develop you.
I’d keep the text as a sign of bullying tbh and you might want to think about registering a complaint if it starts to escalate.
Sounds like a s
t boss: That is the reaction of someone who is a dick or under stress or both. Find out what caused the rant, either take the feedback onboard and learn from it or Dust of your CV and look for a job working for someone who will appreciate your efforts and look to be supportive and develop you.I’d keep the text as a sign of bullying tbh and you might want to think about registering a complaint if it starts to escalate.
UpTheIron said:
hat's how I read it. Only mistake was not making the deck idiot proof so his boss could present it.
This, learning curve for next time which I will ensure, depending on her mood when she's out of her meeting will dictate how much of a s### show I get, so I'm thinking if I'm prepared it may help calm her down/get her less annoyedRakip123 said:
The workplace culture is frankness so the opening speech to new joiners from head of tech is this is the way we do business you either fit or you don't.
In this climate mate I don't fancy the outlook on the job market
Mate... you work in tech for a large bank. You're going to be your aIn this climate mate I don't fancy the outlook on the job market
hole bosses punch bag for a day or two and then he'll need you to work your magic and do another deck for him. They'll be no formal warning.Your worry (it's a good thing in a way, at least you care) sounds like me 20 years ago.
That's my view, with 25 years experience in tech, mainly in large banks, mainly spent doing my various bosses jobs. Over the years you learn to spot where this sort of s
t will happen.Sounds to me like your boss is under pressure and can't handle it, zero problem to send round a further clarification of the point you didn't explain in enough detail, I often leave details out as people switch off if you give them too much. Generally I just stick to the stuff that will burn if not understood, if that's what you've left out then just learn from that and move on.
UpTheIron said:
ate... you work in tech for a large bank. You're going to be your ahole bosses punch bag for a day or two and then he'll need you to work your magic and do another deck for him. They'll be no formal warning.
Your worry (it's a good thing in a way, at least you care) sounds like me 20 years ago.
That's my view, with 25 years experience in tech, mainly in large banks, mainly spent doing my various bosses jobs. Over the years you learn to spot where this sort of st will happen.
Never worked for a bank before this is the first time - is this normal at banks? Most of my team mates are grateful if they don't get a public ######### everything else is you needing a thick skin?hole bosses punch bag for a day or two and then he'll need you to work your magic and do another deck for him. They'll be no formal warning.Your worry (it's a good thing in a way, at least you care) sounds like me 20 years ago.
That's my view, with 25 years experience in tech, mainly in large banks, mainly spent doing my various bosses jobs. Over the years you learn to spot where this sort of s
t will happen.Gassing Station | Jobs & Employment Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff