Asked to return to work but child care issue.
Asked to return to work but child care issue.
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siandcian

Original Poster:

46 posts

200 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Just looking for abit of advice please. I was laid off from work on 23rd March when we went into lockdown. I was not put on furlough but put on what they call s.l.o.p (special lay off pay) £56 per day. I recived an email last week off company saying they hoped to be back up and running by the end of June. My partner has increased her hours at work to compensate my reduced income. Monday at 6pm my company called me to say they wanted me back on shop floor at 6.45am the following morning. This was impossible for me as I've been looking after my son while my partner is at work and I'd set up childcare for 29th June when I assumed I'd be returning to work. I explained this to my employer and they said there main priority is getting production running and it's not acceptable as I should of be available for work. This has left me worried about my employment so yesterday I called manager again and explained situation and that I've got childcare in place for 29th June. Again I got they need production to start and I should give them a call next week to be considered for work. I asked if I was now on layoff still or unemployed. The reply was I was asking him a question he didn't have an answer to. I've worked for them for 18months and I've put in alot of effort and overtime when other staff have refused. I am keen to get back to work and some normality but struggling with childcare until the end of the month. Any advice would be welcomed. Thanks

DuraAce

4,272 posts

183 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Take a couple of weeks annual leave to tide you over?

Failing that, get a relative/friend/neighbour etc to help you for a few days. With only 18 months employment you are on soft ground. Lots of people will be queuing up for jobs.

If you really can't find anyone to help you out, or afford more childcare then get the Mrs to call in sick.

Or perhaps you have a persistent cough coming on that will require 14 days isolation?!

cossy400

3,413 posts

207 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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As above 18 months puts you in sticky ground, can you not move the childcare forward?


InitialDave

14,311 posts

142 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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They sound like knobs with poor forward planning abilities, but unfortunately, that's not all that unusual.

Is this kind of behaviour normal for them?

When they put you on this "special lay off pay", what was stated about your availability for work and notice of return to work?

siandcian

Original Poster:

46 posts

200 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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There was no terms to my layoff pay. I got sent home on 23rd March and no mention of pay structure. I had an email a week or so later saying that I was not on furlough and would get £56per day. I have tried to move my child care forward and due to the number of children they got and the reduction in spaces I can't get my lad in until 29th June. Also yes this company is very one sided in the way they treat staff. Very military and old fashioned morals. But I'm good at my job and never had any reason for them to have me in the office previously. I can't even ask for a week or so annual leave as we have set shutdown holidays. I really am worried about my employment but short of taking my son into the factory with me im stuck.

Countdown

47,164 posts

219 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Good staff are hard to find and train.

Can your partner not take leave? or maybe flex her hours?

If there is absolutely no other option I'd try to have another word with your line manager and explain to him that it's out of your control. If they still refuse to budge I'm not sure what other options is left to you other than resigning.

edc

9,482 posts

274 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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There are a few other options but it seems possible that your employer would ride roughshod over them anyway.
Unpaid parental leave.
Application for flexible working.
Mixed use of holiday between yourself and partner.

MYOB

5,091 posts

161 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Looks like you need to discuss with your wife about reverting back to her previous hours, and resuming the previous arrangements.

That's your only option by the sound of it.

Drumroll

4,361 posts

143 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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At the current time I would not be making "waves" Unemployment will undoubtedly rise. You have only been in the job for 18 months, so could be regarded as "easy pickings"

The Dictator

1,468 posts

163 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Wow, they sound like a bunch of total dheads! Not on furlough, so no 80% of salary, instead a cursory amount. That sounds very tactical, for whatever reasons.

I feel for you, my work are totally understanding and I have only been there since late October. I am home based anyway in fairness.

I don't think there is much you can do in the circumstances, as you make waves and get pushed out, particularly as you have been there under 2 years.

Good luck and I hope you manage to get it sorted out, it sounds like a very difficult set of circumstances to be faced with and I wish you all the best.

h0b0

8,877 posts

219 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Wow, you work for a company that thinks it is acceptable to move you to below the minimum wage and call it "Slop". Not a great position to be in but with your limited tenure you may have to find a way to make it work. Assuming the company are not bringing back everyone with your job at once, can they split the shifts between a couple of you? This may provide the flexibility you need to get child care.

crofty1984

16,851 posts

227 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Is the childcare an all day issue? Or could you work some hours of the day? Is there a night shift you could jump on for a bit to make it work?
You may find you'll have to dance to their tune though. Whilst sharpening your CV writing pencil.

siandcian

Original Poster:

46 posts

200 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Thanks for the comments. There is only one day shift. I've managed get my lad a place in a nursery next Tuesday onwards. I've called manager today and informed them. All my manager said was he needs speak to .......(No names mentioned but a major family concrete products company in midlands) to discuss if I can be considered for next week. I've not heard anything back so not paid for my son's placement for next week. No doubt come Friday or later they will of made up there mind to request me in but child place won't be available then. I'm getting really frustrated and considering getting a doctors note for stress. I'm not the 1st person they have played cat and mouse with.

InitialDave

14,311 posts

142 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Do what you can to keep yourself available for work, but they sound like the kind of people to take a petulant "couldn't come when we demanded, so not going to ask you next time" attitude.

While I think you shouldn't have to tolerate this behaviour at all, I do I understand that suitable jobs don't just fall out the sky, and the current situation is certainly not going to help matters.

But don't forget this when other potential jobs hove into view.

The Moose

23,551 posts

232 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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Is there any reason you’re not looking for another job?

Lee Jones Jnr

1,724 posts

193 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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h0b0 said:
Wow, you work for a company that thinks it is acceptable to move you to below the minimum wage
£56 for zero hours per day isn't less than minimum wage.

oldbanger

4,328 posts

261 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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I don’t understand why they didn’t furlough you. Why would they not do that if the layoff was COVID-19 related

siandcian

Original Poster:

46 posts

200 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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I don't know why they didn't furlough me either. I assumed they would. I've spoken to a colleuge and he said it's terrible there and what was a Monday to Friday job now includes a Saturday 6am-12pm as part of the working week.

h0b0

8,877 posts

219 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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Lee Jones Jnr said:
h0b0 said:
Wow, you work for a company that thinks it is acceptable to move you to below the minimum wage and call it "Slop".
£56 for zero hours per day isn't less than minimum wage.
Perhaps for the hours worked it is not but for the lifestyle it affords it is. My point was more the choice of reducing income and calling it slop.





edc

9,482 posts

274 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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h0b0 said:
Lee Jones Jnr said:
h0b0 said:
Wow, you work for a company that thinks it is acceptable to move you to below the minimum wage and call it "Slop".
£56 for zero hours per day isn't less than minimum wage.
Perhaps for the hours worked it is not but for the lifestyle it affords it is. My point was more the choice of reducing income and calling it slop.
There are statutory lay off procedures and the pay is less than what the OP has been paid.