Redundancy question
Discussion
My Mum (70) has worked at a Religious retreat for 19 years part time, around 20 hours per month.
She was told she was going to be made redundant 2 months ago and verbally offered 1900 odd pounds by the manager.
She was happy with that, seemed fair. Now fast forward 2 months, total radio silence.
She emailed the manager to advise on an update, and a response back in 7 days last Friday.
She did have a contract change last year to zero hours, no consultation, but has had continuous service.
Just not sure what is the next course of action?
She was told she was going to be made redundant 2 months ago and verbally offered 1900 odd pounds by the manager.
She was happy with that, seemed fair. Now fast forward 2 months, total radio silence.
She emailed the manager to advise on an update, and a response back in 7 days last Friday.
She did have a contract change last year to zero hours, no consultation, but has had continuous service.
Just not sure what is the next course of action?
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 24th August 17:06
As an HR person it's not 100% clear what has already happened.
Has she been put at risk and had a consultation? Is her role pooled and what is the reason for redundancy? Has she been served notice? Has she been given a redundancy dismissal date? Does she actually want to leave? If her role is in fact not redundant, does she still want to leave? Is there a voluntary redundancy process in place is it compulsory only?
Has she been put at risk and had a consultation? Is her role pooled and what is the reason for redundancy? Has she been served notice? Has she been given a redundancy dismissal date? Does she actually want to leave? If her role is in fact not redundant, does she still want to leave? Is there a voluntary redundancy process in place is it compulsory only?
StuTheGrouch said:
The Spruce Goose said:
Are you being factious, it is pretty obvious what the outcome is for my mum.
i would prefer if someone else would respond and you don't bother, thanks.
I thought the same.i would prefer if someone else would respond and you don't bother, thanks.
edc said:
As an HR person ....
Ah, that explains itThere were two meeting.
After the second one, the manager advised she was getting made redundant, it is a retreat, as mentioned before and work dried up due to CV19.
The manger offered a redundancy payment verbal, initially very low, but came back with a figure true to the 19 years of service, under 2k ish.
That was 2 months ago, no further communication, nothing until my mum emailed last Friday to ask for an update.
My suggestion is to escalate/raise grievance to Bishop, or just go to ACAS as there is a cut off timeframe for complaints.
She is upset at redundancy but the small payment i think should suffice for 19 years continuous service.
The issue was zero hour contract but looking myself online that shouldn't matter.
After the second one, the manager advised she was getting made redundant, it is a retreat, as mentioned before and work dried up due to CV19.
The manger offered a redundancy payment verbal, initially very low, but came back with a figure true to the 19 years of service, under 2k ish.
That was 2 months ago, no further communication, nothing until my mum emailed last Friday to ask for an update.
My suggestion is to escalate/raise grievance to Bishop, or just go to ACAS as there is a cut off timeframe for complaints.
She is upset at redundancy but the small payment i think should suffice for 19 years continuous service.
The issue was zero hour contract but looking myself online that shouldn't matter.
Even though you asked me not to comment I will make one last post. With some presumptions that your mother is 70, worked 19 years and earnt circa £500/week, then the statutory redundancy payment is over £14,000 and not nearly £2k.
Now I dont know the actual salary but perhaps as they have gone to push the button then realised the big discrepancy between the verbal conversation and the actual statutory obligation. Again, this is supposition as the facts are not all there.
Until she has been served notice of redundancy then there is no redundancy dismissal taking place. This may sound blindingly obvious but from what you have since posted it seems perhaps nothing is documented and notice has not yet been served.
The other obvious question related to furlough. Has she been furloughed and is she still furloughed?
Now I dont know the actual salary but perhaps as they have gone to push the button then realised the big discrepancy between the verbal conversation and the actual statutory obligation. Again, this is supposition as the facts are not all there.
Until she has been served notice of redundancy then there is no redundancy dismissal taking place. This may sound blindingly obvious but from what you have since posted it seems perhaps nothing is documented and notice has not yet been served.
The other obvious question related to furlough. Has she been furloughed and is she still furloughed?
Edited by edc on Monday 24th August 18:26
StuTheGrouch said:
Is your mum still working there? Or has the work literally dried up?
I think she needs legal advice, otherwise they might just string her along for as long as they possibly can. Then deny the offer etc etc.
no hasn't worked there since March.I think she needs legal advice, otherwise they might just string her along for as long as they possibly can. Then deny the offer etc etc.
It reopened the 31st July.
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