Nine out of Ten want to continue working from home
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Not surprised,
If employers are ok with it and productivity is maintained then is that a problem, a change in working life
Next door neighbour is a doctor, he just makes calls instead of seeing anyone. Man opposite works for the Council, he plays with his children in the garden every afternoon, another man is an engineer, just makes zoom calls all morning, golf in the afternoon, man next door to him is a surveyor with an insurance company, he has worked from home for years, Makes a factory visit in the morning, writes up his notes, every day is his own after lunch.
I just wish that they would be a bit quieter in the afternoons, I cannot get to sleep
If employers are ok with it and productivity is maintained then is that a problem, a change in working life
Next door neighbour is a doctor, he just makes calls instead of seeing anyone. Man opposite works for the Council, he plays with his children in the garden every afternoon, another man is an engineer, just makes zoom calls all morning, golf in the afternoon, man next door to him is a surveyor with an insurance company, he has worked from home for years, Makes a factory visit in the morning, writes up his notes, every day is his own after lunch.
I just wish that they would be a bit quieter in the afternoons, I cannot get to sleep
Robbo 27 said:
If employers are ok with it
I wish. My employer is very much of the opinion that if he can't see you, you're not working, despite all the evidence to the contrary from the last 4 months.Work have graciously permitted us to request (annually) changes to contracts for WFH, however, each must be signed by your manager then go to the Operations Manager for final signoff. So far, I believe, he has rejected each and every one. The last one that I know he rejected his reason was "but what if there is a problem?" He asked what he could tell his boss if there was an issue that would be dealt with by this person when they were at home. He just doesn't seem to understand the "Working" part of working from home. The fact that currently, if you want to work from home as a one off, you have to book it via the holiday system says pretty much all you need to know.
Personally, I think that WFH may well be what makes people select new positions in the future.
The reality is for a vast swathe of the working populous WFH is a genuine solution. Many middle management and the government are also out of touch on this (self protection I would suspect).
I have been technically home based for the past decade but often chose to work on client sites and get the perks of racking airmails and Honours points to offset against personal holidays - however the new world sees clients not want me onsite and I am good with that and I have saved huge volumes of time through this too.
I have been technically home based for the past decade but often chose to work on client sites and get the perks of racking airmails and Honours points to offset against personal holidays - however the new world sees clients not want me onsite and I am good with that and I have saved huge volumes of time through this too.
I find it interesting that some employers see the "but you're not in the office if you're needed" thing in quite such black and white terms.
Most people have a commute.
My take on it is and has been throughout the lockdown that if there's something that needs to be done in the office go to the office and you're only as far away as your commute dictates.
It doesn't have to be an "all or nothing" thing and thankfully my employer seems to be seeing it that way.
Most people have a commute.
My take on it is and has been throughout the lockdown that if there's something that needs to be done in the office go to the office and you're only as far away as your commute dictates.
It doesn't have to be an "all or nothing" thing and thankfully my employer seems to be seeing it that way.
Sister in law is now permanently working from home.
The company productivity has skyrocketed and sick days are pretty much zero.
They had brand new offices built about five years ago, apparently they are getting rid and going to rent somewhere small. Most employees will continue to work from home.
The company productivity has skyrocketed and sick days are pretty much zero.
They had brand new offices built about five years ago, apparently they are getting rid and going to rent somewhere small. Most employees will continue to work from home.
StuntmanMike said:
Sister in law is now permanently working from home.
The company productivity has skyrocketed and sick days are pretty much zero.
They had brand new offices built about five years ago, apparently they are getting rid and going to rent somewhere small. Most employees will continue to work from home.
Sounds good.The company productivity has skyrocketed and sick days are pretty much zero.
They had brand new offices built about five years ago, apparently they are getting rid and going to rent somewhere small. Most employees will continue to work from home.
It’ll give some people a headache. Working from home? Having more time with the family?! Still getting the job done?!? increased productivity?!??!
Poof goes the little bit of smoke from the managers head
My neighbour does something in insurance sales, if people meet their targets they wfh, if they don’t, into the office they go.
No surprise that sales are up.
ash73 said:
And yet apparently WFH actually means work in the morning from home, then go play in the garden.
but you dont know if people are starting at 6am and working till 1pm without a break and then picking it up again for an hour or 2 later in to the afternoon/evening - many I work with are choosing to redesign their working hours to suit their needs and as long as the business/client needs are met there isn't a problem.Also, across the public sector sickness absence rates have plummeted to levels never seen before - which is a huge bonus.
ash73 said:
alorotom said:
ash73 said:
And yet apparently WFH actually means work in the morning from home, then go play in the garden.
but you dont know if people are starting at 6am and working till 1pm without a break and then picking it up again for an hour or 2 later in to the afternoon/evening - many I work with are choosing to redesign their working hours to suit their needs and as long as the business/client needs are met there isn't a problem.Also, across the public sector sickness absence rates have plummeted to levels never seen before - which is a huge bonus.
It's more likely people are working less hours... if they can get all their work done in the morning increase their productivity requirements.
Timing of sales calls, for you example, completely depends on who you are selling to, where they are based and how you fit around their needs as purchasers (i.e. how much research and background you have.know about the buyer)... I have a recruiter that I have used many times in the past call me between 7 and 8am as they know that's the best time to reach me.
DoubleD said:
You seem to know an awful lot about your neighbours!
It's a Northern thing.If I am in the garden, a neighbour will walk up, asks how you are, then asks about the family and finally how is work.
The neighbour in insurance is a git but then I think that 90% of them are just that way, he doesn't talk, nor his wife nor his kids, (maybe he is from the south).
We talk and I think that is pretty good.
Vickers_VC10 said:
I can see having to sign disclaimers being a norm though as many people do not and are not using ergonomic seating, desk solutions and long term going to get a uptick in lumbar, shoulder RSI going on.
My company have agreed £150 expenses for buying office equipment at home. I haven't taken them up on that as I am moving soon and don't want more stuff to have to move. Still means a lot of us are perched on benches in the kitchen or taking up the dining room or trying to work on the sofa.I'm happy to carry on doing this for now, appreciating that I am not commuting 10 miles each way just to sit at a desk in an out of town office estate bounded by two motorways and a dual carriageway.
The government's panic about cities becoming ghost towns seems a bit ridiculous, I'm not not going to commute an hour each way just so I can pick up a £3.50 lunch from the van that comes around. It is a shame they are probably not doing well and their food was good, but there are other things I can now spend my money on. I'm probably spending more at my local co-op and when things get a bit more to normal, I would be eating out a lot more.
Spare tyre said:
Now easier to move work overseas
In my industry (software development) that's been happening since the late 90's at least, with varying results. I think history has shown that one way or another most jobs that have no local element are at risk of moving to wherever is cheapest.I guess we'll all be delivery drivers sooner or later.
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