Workplace want car MOT
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bobski1

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1,987 posts

127 months

Monday 12th October 2020
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I recently had a catch-up with a close friend & something they said I found really odd & wanted to know if it was just me or if it's the norm.

He works as a teacher for a special needs school & recently the school became part of an academy trust. Recently they asked for his car insurance, MOT & driver licence.

The licence I could see as normal & insurance IF he had other staff in his car but given that he doesn't I found if really odd they wanted his insurance & MOT information.

I couldn't really offer him much advice except to ask why they needed it but it just seemed really peculiar.

interstellar

4,738 posts

169 months

Monday 12th October 2020
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Not really. They want to make sure he is towing the line. Seems reasonable to me.

They don’t need his mot though as they can just look it up online with his reg.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

221 months

Monday 12th October 2020
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Likely he needs to have business insurance on his vehicle - it’s a few pounds a year.



MOT is online anyone can check - give them the website and car reviews they can enjoy to their hearts content.

bobski1

Original Poster:

1,987 posts

127 months

Monday 12th October 2020
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Welshbeef said:
Likely he needs to have business insurance on his vehicle - it’s a few pounds a year.



MOT is online anyone can check - give them the website and car reviews they can enjoy to their hearts content.
I did think this as he does go to different places for courses.

The MOT is one I find weird, I've never been asked for it in all the years I've worked. I don't understand the logic, like do they not trust an employee to have a roadworthy car? What else would they start to check...

LosingGrip

8,634 posts

182 months

Monday 12th October 2020
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Does he use the car for work in any way? Going to meetings etc. If so I would guess they have to make sure it's roadworthy to cover themselves.

I had to do it when I worked at Tesco and used my car to check the prices of the local petrol stations.

Vee

3,109 posts

257 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Employee buys a cheap car, doesn't maintain or insure it properly and something happens on work time.
Employer gets hit with a claim from family saying they had a Duty of Care.
Not unreasonable to check in my view.

One of my old employers forced people into company cars and took away the allowance option since trying to ensure people had MOT, insurance, maintenance every year was too much admin.


Meeten-5dulx

3,220 posts

79 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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My work do this.
If you don't have a company car and use your own for work, you need a 'Permit to Drive'.
This is outsourced to an external company and they ask for evidence of insurance, and complete an online course to assess your attitude to risk
My car is <3yrs old so no request for MOT, but I assume that they check online if necessary.

Nothing ominous in my opiion.


cml24

1,547 posts

170 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Seems reasonable to me. My company don't go quite this far, but you do have to confirm in writing you have all this in place. You have to complete practical and online driver training, and confirm the car meets minimum requirements, seat belts, air bags, ABS, headrests min NCAP score etc.

As suggested, if I have a crash between sites or on the way to a training course they can argue they've done everything practical to ensure I am safe, as a low mileage driver.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

221 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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So OP I’m assuming he has as he needs to hand over the information.

edc

9,482 posts

274 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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The impetus for these seemingly extra checks is related to corporate manslaughter.

Countdown

47,139 posts

219 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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edc said:
The impetus for these seemingly extra checks is related to corporate manslaughter.
Yep. If Employers ask Employees to use their own transport they have to carry out reasonable checks to ensure that it's roadworthy and that the Employee is licensed and insured.

98elise

31,321 posts

184 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Vee said:
Employee buys a cheap car, doesn't maintain or insure it properly and something happens on work time.
Employer gets hit with a claim from family saying they had a Duty of Care.
Not unreasonable to check in my view.

One of my old employers forced people into company cars and took away the allowance option since trying to ensure people had MOT, insurance, maintenance every year was too much admin.
Only if he needs to use the car in any way for work. If not then what does it have to do with the employer? You could have access to multiple cars, or have a car that's SORN, or a track car etc.


Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

284 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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I did always think it was odd that the employer has to provide free eye tests if you're required to use a computer, but not if you're required to drive a vehicle.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

221 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Dr Jekyll said:
I did always think it was odd that the employer has to provide free eye tests if you're required to use a computer, but not if you're required to drive a vehicle.
@ Johnson and Johnson a friend used to work there - their policy was anyone with a company car OR car allowance they would put them through IAM (advanced driving licence). Which I thought was a great safety and engagement process.

edc

9,482 posts

274 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Dr Jekyll said:
I did always think it was odd that the employer has to provide free eye tests if you're required to use a computer, but not if you're required to drive a vehicle.
HSE specifies the requirement of an eye test for DSE users hence employers are just applying the relevant law.

98elise

31,321 posts

184 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Welshbeef said:
Dr Jekyll said:
I did always think it was odd that the employer has to provide free eye tests if you're required to use a computer, but not if you're required to drive a vehicle.
@ Johnson and Johnson a friend used to work there - their policy was anyone with a company car OR car allowance they would put them through IAM (advanced driving licence). Which I thought was a great safety and engagement process.
A place I worked for put us all through a defensive driving course, which was pretty good. It concentrated on stuff that keeps you out of trouble. Some of the stuff I learned I still use today.

320d is all you need

2,114 posts

66 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Meeten-5dulx said:
My work do this.
If you don't have a company car and use your own for work, you need a 'Permit to Drive'.
This is outsourced to an external company and they ask for evidence of insurance, and complete an online course to assess your attitude to risk
My car is <3yrs old so no request for MOT, but I assume that they check online if necessary.

Nothing ominous in my opiion.
That does seem rather a pain in the backside.

I've worked for 5 companies in my career, only been asked to provide proof of insurance / MOT to one of them, and I thought it was a bit of a pain in the arse.

I have a permit to drive already. It's called a "driving license" hehe

(talking of which - I don't mind showing my driving license or passport for ID, but I'd get a bit funny if my company wanted my insurance certificate or MOT - I'd point them to AskMID and Government websites)

Bumblebee7

1,533 posts

98 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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At my company it used to be a requirement in order to be paid your car allowance. Insurance, MOT and licence check.

They either stopped bothering to do it though, or they just haven't been asking me as it's been at least 3 years since they asked for my details.

geeks

11,068 posts

162 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Seems normal if he needs to use his car. The last three places I have worked have all required it, never really given it a second thought to be honest.

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

266 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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interstellar said:
Not really. They want to make sure he is towing the line. Seems reasonable to me.
If he's using his vehicle for towing it's the least he'll be asked for.