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Smurfsarepeopletoo

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972 posts

80 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Random situation, and just wondered on peoples opinions, the company I work for (a Bank Contact Centre) has decided to trial home working, however, the way they started it was sending 3 people home for a few days to trial it, then this changed to the 3 people staying home, and another 5 people starting probably Monday, they have now said that due to lockdown, they wont be back in the office for at least the next month, maybe not for the rest of the year.

Now there was no consultation done with staff, no information provided up front regarding home working conditions, just picked 5 more people.

Is this the way this should be done? should this be provided to everyone? should any financial recourse be given to the people who still have to come into the office, as effectively the people working from home are now in a better financial position?

And is there something else that maybe I am missing that should be brought up with the company?

Foliage

3,861 posts

145 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Smurfsarepeopletoo said:
should any financial recourse be given to the people who still have to come into the office, as effectively the people working from home are now in a better financial position?
Its the opposite, the people working from home are using their electric, water, facilities, property, internet etc etc... The trade off is the commute cost vs facilities cost. The company will see a net benefit from this due to facilities cost plummeting, as long as productivity continues the company is onto a winner.


Smurfsarepeopletoo

Original Poster:

972 posts

80 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Foliage said:
Its the opposite, the people working from home are using their electric, water, facilities, property, internet etc etc... The trade off is the commute cost vs facilities cost. The company will see a net benefit from this due to facilities cost plummeting, as long as productivity continues the company is onto a winner.
But can the costs of home working such as utilities, be claimed back, where as the costs for commuting I dont believe can.

Foliage

3,861 posts

145 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Smurfsarepeopletoo said:
Foliage said:
Its the opposite, the people working from home are using their electric, water, facilities, property, internet etc etc... The trade off is the commute cost vs facilities cost. The company will see a net benefit from this due to facilities cost plummeting, as long as productivity continues the company is onto a winner.
But can the costs of home working such as utilities, be claimed back, where as the costs for commuting I dont believe can.
Claimed from who? from the government would be £1.20 a week plus 20% of any provable costs, from your employer, depends on your employer.

Edited by Foliage on Wednesday 4th November 14:37

Smurfsarepeopletoo

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972 posts

80 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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You can claim tax relief for working from home.

Foliage

3,861 posts

145 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Smurfsarepeopletoo said:
You can claim tax relief for working from home.
£1.20 a week I think.

It just is what it is.

ndtman

752 posts

204 months

liner33

10,861 posts

225 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Zetec-S said:
Eh? Unless they work for Evian I can't see any big increase in water consumption. Likewise most people already have internet so no increase in cost there.

Yes, heating and electric will go up a bit, but offset that against money saved by not commuting, less chance of buying a coffee or sandwich for lunch, etc, and I'm sure a lot of people are better off for it.

Plus you can claim a small amount back as tax relief.
Flushing the loo perhaps ? Thats where most of your water goes anyhow , unless you just go out in the garden of course

BoRED S2upid

20,957 posts

263 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Foliage said:
£1.20 a week I think.

It just is what it is.
It’s more than that and very simple to claim and is paid for the entire year irrespective of the length of covid home working. So the OP does have a point it should be offered to everyone if possible not just a few at random.

Zetec-S

6,611 posts

116 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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liner33 said:
Flushing the loo perhaps ? Thats where most of your water goes anyhow , unless you just go out in the garden of course
Only if you're on a meter, in which case that's what, 5p per flush?

liner33

10,861 posts

225 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Zetec-S said:
Only if you're on a meter, in which case that's what, 5p per flush?
Which will work out more than the tax relief on its own !

There are huge downsides to working from home for most people and many are just starting to discover them

Zetec-S

6,611 posts

116 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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liner33 said:
Which will work out more than the tax relief on its own !

There are huge downsides to working from home for most people and many are just starting to discover them
Having to use your own loo is one of the downsides to working from home rofl

boyse7en

7,935 posts

188 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Zetec-S said:
Having to use your own loo is one of the downsides to working from home rofl
It's an extra cost if you are on a water meter...

My partner has been working from home since April and during the summer it didn't make much difference to the house running costs. Now that winter is setting in we have to have the heating on for an extra 6-7 hours a day to keep it warm enough which is going to roughly double our oil costs, plus extra costs for lighting/computer power.


Depends on the commute you had to do previously, but for us it is getting close to costing more than the commute did.

CubanPete

3,759 posts

211 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Yep, I go into work on the cold days!

Kent Border Kenny

2,219 posts

83 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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To answer the question, no, you are not entitled to any extra money because your colleagues are now working from home.

If you’d prefer to work from home yourself you could ask to.

RS93

197 posts

71 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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with the working from home tax relief i have just claimed this,

'Claim tax relief on £6 a week. If your employer won't pay expenses for your extra costs due to necessary working from home, but you have them, then you can ask for the amount to be deducted from your taxable income. To make the process easy, HMRC says that claims in line with the employers' payment (ie, for £6 a week) will not need to justify that figure – meaning you won't need to keep receipts or prove information. Tax relief of £6 a week equates to a gain of £1.20 a week for a basic 20% rate taxpayer, £2.40 a week for a higher 40% rate taxpayer.'

So am i £6 a better off or £1.20 a week better off? I cant work out the wording with hmrc!

Thanks

21TonyK

12,920 posts

232 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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RS93 said:
with the working from home tax relief i have just claimed this,

'Claim tax relief on £6 a week. If your employer won't pay expenses for your extra costs due to necessary working from home, but you have them, then you can ask for the amount to be deducted from your taxable income. To make the process easy, HMRC says that claims in line with the employers' payment (ie, for £6 a week) will not need to justify that figure – meaning you won't need to keep receipts or prove information. Tax relief of £6 a week equates to a gain of £1.20 a week for a basic 20% rate taxpayer, £2.40 a week for a higher 40% rate taxpayer.'

So am i £6 a better off or £1.20 a week better off? I cant work out the wording with hmrc!

Thanks
"£1.20 a week for a basic 20% rate taxpayer, £2.40 a week for a higher 40% rate taxpayer"




RS93

197 posts

71 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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21TonyK said:
"£1.20 a week for a basic 20% rate taxpayer, £2.40 a week for a higher 40% rate taxpayer"
right in front of my eyes! thanks