New job: 4 weeks in & want to leave..
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So, started a new job and really not enjoying it.. Luckily I have the chance to jump ship for another offer, however my 3 month notice may be a deal breaker...
The current job has a 3 month probation, of which I'm 4 weeks into.. During the probation I still have a 3 month notice period though the company reserves the right to terminate employment with 2 weeks (which becomes 3mo after probation).
Anyway, long story short, what are the repurcussions of me simply walking out during that period? Having seen many people seemingly do it in other companies when made better offers.... I don't plan to, though I will be pushing to reduce down to a few weeks at most.
The current job has a 3 month probation, of which I'm 4 weeks into.. During the probation I still have a 3 month notice period though the company reserves the right to terminate employment with 2 weeks (which becomes 3mo after probation).
Anyway, long story short, what are the repurcussions of me simply walking out during that period? Having seen many people seemingly do it in other companies when made better offers.... I don't plan to, though I will be pushing to reduce down to a few weeks at most.
tejr said:
So, started a new job and really not enjoying it.. Luckily I have the chance to jump ship for another offer, however my 3 month notice may be a deal breaker...
The current job has a 3 month probation, of which I'm 4 weeks into.. During the probation I still have a 3 month notice period though the company reserves the right to terminate employment with 2 weeks (which becomes 3mo after probation).
Anyway, long story short, what are the repurcussions of me simply walking out during that period? Having seen many people seemingly do it in other companies when made better offers.... I don't plan to, though I will be pushing to reduce down to a few weeks at most.
if you don't plan to then it's a moot point really.The current job has a 3 month probation, of which I'm 4 weeks into.. During the probation I still have a 3 month notice period though the company reserves the right to terminate employment with 2 weeks (which becomes 3mo after probation).
Anyway, long story short, what are the repurcussions of me simply walking out during that period? Having seen many people seemingly do it in other companies when made better offers.... I don't plan to, though I will be pushing to reduce down to a few weeks at most.
Have a word with your Line Manager - nobody wants to keep somebody in post if they aren't happy. Chances are they will let you go sooner.
Though I don't plan to it may be a last ditch effort to not lose the other job offer..
Essentially I had two job offers on the plate and was immediately available for both..the one I took is obviously the one that's not working out and the other is still a viable option but I don't want the change from "immediately available" to "3 month wait" to become a deal breaker essentially for the option B.
I wanted to figure out my options before alerting my current employer to the situation as I'm genuinely unsure as to whether they will simply remove my access to the interesting stuff I'm working on and just give me menial stuff to work on till the end of my notice period..
The other angle I was thinking about was convincing them to end things early in order to avoid paying a placement fee for the recruiter.. Im guessing the recruiter only gets paid once the probation period is up?
Essentially I had two job offers on the plate and was immediately available for both..the one I took is obviously the one that's not working out and the other is still a viable option but I don't want the change from "immediately available" to "3 month wait" to become a deal breaker essentially for the option B.
I wanted to figure out my options before alerting my current employer to the situation as I'm genuinely unsure as to whether they will simply remove my access to the interesting stuff I'm working on and just give me menial stuff to work on till the end of my notice period..
The other angle I was thinking about was convincing them to end things early in order to avoid paying a placement fee for the recruiter.. Im guessing the recruiter only gets paid once the probation period is up?
It's not ideal to agree to different notice periods in the employer's favour but too late for that now.
On the one hand you have a contract and made an agreement. On the other hand holding you to it - forcing you to work - is not practical. The could decide not to provide a reference if they were going to be awkward.
BUT - you've been there a few weeks, probably not really got up to speed yet and in 99% of cases they are going to let you go with a short amount of notice. Just tell them.
On the one hand you have a contract and made an agreement. On the other hand holding you to it - forcing you to work - is not practical. The could decide not to provide a reference if they were going to be awkward.
BUT - you've been there a few weeks, probably not really got up to speed yet and in 99% of cases they are going to let you go with a short amount of notice. Just tell them.
If option B really want you, they’ll wait. Unless it’s a contract role (and your notice period makes me believe it isn’t) then surely they’d also have to wait for any other candidates to serve their notice and leave?
But, as other have said - tell you boss it’s not working, and that you want to leave.
But, as other have said - tell you boss it’s not working, and that you want to leave.
tejr said:
Anyway, long story short, what are the repurcussions of me simply walking out during that period?
The black and white of it is that you would be in breach of contract and liable for any financial loss your actions cause to the company. If that loss isn't recoverable from any money they owe you they can pursue you for the balance.tejr said:
I wanted to figure out my options before alerting my current employer to the situation as I'm genuinely unsure as to whether they will simply remove my access to the interesting stuff I'm working on and just give me menial stuff to work on till the end of my notice period..
That's something only they can answer.tejr said:
So, started a new job and really not enjoying it.. Luckily I have the chance to jump ship for another offer, however my 3 month notice may be a deal breaker...
The current job has a 3 month probation, of which I'm 4 weeks into.. During the probation I still have a 3 month notice period though the company reserves the right to terminate employment with 2 weeks (which becomes 3mo after probation).
Anyway, long story short, what are the repurcussions of me simply walking out during that period? Having seen many people seemingly do it in other companies when made better offers.... I don't plan to, though I will be pushing to reduce down to a few weeks at most.
Tip for next time: never accept a notice period that is so stacked in favour of the employer. Notice periods should be identical both ways and alarm bells should ring if they’re not. The current job has a 3 month probation, of which I'm 4 weeks into.. During the probation I still have a 3 month notice period though the company reserves the right to terminate employment with 2 weeks (which becomes 3mo after probation).
Anyway, long story short, what are the repurcussions of me simply walking out during that period? Having seen many people seemingly do it in other companies when made better offers.... I don't plan to, though I will be pushing to reduce down to a few weeks at most.
tejr said:
So, started a new job and really not enjoying it.. Luckily I have the chance to jump ship for another offer...
Why are you not enjoying it?What have you just found out that you didn’t find out before you said yes to it?
What have you done extra with regards to your due diligence with this other role to prevent history repeating itself?
king them off as you never know when you might cross paths with the same peopleStevieBee said:
The black and white of it is that you would be in breach of contract and liable for any financial loss your actions cause to the company. If that loss isn't recoverable from any money they owe you they can pursue you for the balance.
That would very much depend on what’s in the contract and even then it would be extremely difficult for any tribunal to find in the employers favour. I’ve never seen an employment contract that required three months notice while under probation, maybe the op is in a highly specialised or very senior role, but it’s most unusual and I doubt it’s enforceable. If they’ve been forking out fortunes in training they will be upset, but I’d tell them you’re unhappy and want to go ASAP, ask them for the earliest leaving date and if they play silly buggers tell them you’re off at the end of the week, they can take it from there.
Thanks all... Appreciate the info..
Yes, the notice period is quite long, but also pretty standard for the level of seniority and within the investments sector.. I can't complain tbh as it was the same in my last role and the pay-in-lieu of notice basically doubled my redundancy pay out.
But I've realised I'll happily take a smaller package for a better work/life balance. I had initially accepted the OTHER job only for one of the c-level staff to call me directly on my mobile to negotiate even better terms in order for me to come onboard..
However, there are weeks when I don't see the sun, or even my kids until the weekend because they are asleep when I leave and asleep when I return..
Yes, the notice period is quite long, but also pretty standard for the level of seniority and within the investments sector.. I can't complain tbh as it was the same in my last role and the pay-in-lieu of notice basically doubled my redundancy pay out.
rog007 said:
Why are you not enjoying it?
What have you just found out that you didn’t find out before you said yes to it?
What have you done extra with regards to your due diligence with this other role to prevent history repeating itself?
Good question.. I went in with my eyes open so nothing has come as a surprise.. the hours are long, which I am compensated well for.. What have you just found out that you didn’t find out before you said yes to it?
What have you done extra with regards to your due diligence with this other role to prevent history repeating itself?
But I've realised I'll happily take a smaller package for a better work/life balance. I had initially accepted the OTHER job only for one of the c-level staff to call me directly on my mobile to negotiate even better terms in order for me to come onboard..
However, there are weeks when I don't see the sun, or even my kids until the weekend because they are asleep when I leave and asleep when I return..
wiggy001 said:
Tip for next time: never accept a notice period that is so stacked in favour of the employer. Notice periods should be identical both ways and alarm bells should ring if they’re not.
If push came to shove you would think a Tribunal or Court would find the contract unfair - although the Unfair Contract Terms Act itself doesn't employment contracts.Gassing Station | Jobs & Employment Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff