Dependables vs Wasters

[Scabutz]

I'm in a middle to senior management position. I'm sure most in the situation have seen two types of people. Those that get on and get the job done, and those that do fk all. I have always been the dependable one and in many regards I do t resent that, I have been promoted and paid more.for my hard work, in my current role I've been offered a golden handcuff to stay on a while.

But more and more I'm getting fed up with highly paid senior people doing fk all. My company keep hiring senior staff whose roles have no tangible deliverables at all.

Not sure what my point of this post is. A rant I guess. I just feel more and more than I'm having the piss taken out of me. My previous boss was quite hands on, he left, and a lot of what he did fell to me. I don't mind as a lot of it I should have been doing anyway. But I have peers who have had their load reduced, are doing fk all, and moaning how busy they are.

Guess what I want to know is how do I handle myself into one of these roles where I don't have to do much and paid a load.

[SAS Tom]

Always a difficult one and there certainly are people like that however, just because you don’t know what someone is doing, it doesn’t mean they are doing nothing.

[StevieBee]

Scabutz said:

Guess what I want to know is how do I handle myself into one of these roles where I don't have to do much and paid a load.

A first step is to delve deeper into their scope of responsibility. You will almost certainly find that far from doing nothing, they are carrying a heavy burden of responsibility which, if they are effective in what they do, will be delegated through the chain of management and staff. Outwardly, they may appear to have it cushy but the decisions they make can have the propensity to grow the company exponentially, creating employment and return on investors money - or drive it into the ground loosing people their livelihood, investors, their money and the owner, his house.

All you have to do, on the other hand, is decide the best way to deliver on the tasks you've been set.

Do you know the story of the bloke with a hammer? A machine stops working in a factory and an engineer is called to fix it. He looks at the machine, takes out a hammer and bangs the side with it and the machine starts working. Hands the boss his invoice for £500. Boss says you only hit it with a hammer, can you itemise the invoice please. The guy hands a second invoice that reads: 1: For hitting machine with hammer: £1.00. 2: For knowing where to hit the machine and how hard: £499.

So the people you're referring to are the guys with the hammer! - so learn where to hit and how hard.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

SAS Tom said:

Always a difficult one and there certainly are people like that however, just because you don’t know what someone is doing, it doesn’t mean they are doing nothing.

Indeed. I'm pretty well organised, so I think I'm like a swan. On the surface, all looks calm, and people might think there's not much I'm doing, but underneath the surface, it's all happening to keep something this big afloat and moving forwards. .

[deckster]

Scabutz said:

I'm in a middle to senior management position. I'm sure most in the situation have seen two types of people. Those that get on and get the job done, and those that do fk all. I have always been the dependable one and in many regards I do t resent that, I have been promoted and paid more.for my hard work, in my current role I've been offered a golden handcuff to stay on a while.

But more and more I'm getting fed up with highly paid senior people doing fk all. My company keep hiring senior staff whose roles have no tangible deliverables at all.

Not sure what my point of this post is. A rant I guess. I just feel more and more than I'm having the piss taken out of me. My previous boss was quite hands on, he left, and a lot of what he did fell to me. I don't mind as a lot of it I should have been doing anyway. But I have peers who have had their load reduced, are doing fk all, and moaning how busy they are.

Guess what I want to know is how do I handle myself into one of these roles where I don't have to do much and paid a load.

It's simply an effect of the transition from being measured on your inputs to being measured on the outcome. Senior people aren't paid for deliverables; they are paid to produce results. So if the bottom line is that the organisation increases turnover by X%, or widget production by Y%, or reduces customer churn by Z% - that's what they get paid for.

On the other hand, if they're genuinely doing no work and not delivering results then they should be found out fairly quickly.

[Scabutz]

I was mostly ranting about one individual in particularly. I know for certain he does nothing, because I work directly with him, and I have to pick up the pieces of what he doesnt do. He hasn't been found out because he rides the coat tails of everyone else.

Hes an alright guy, but he is a lazy bd. The whole company knows he does fk all, but the management seem oblivious.

[lyonspride]

Scabutz said:

I'm in a middle to senior management position. I'm sure most in the situation have seen two types of people. Those that get on and get the job done, and those that do fk all.

It's never about how much you do, it's about how much other people say you do. Applies to all jobs bar the owner of the company.........

In my experience, the harder you work, the less you get paid, it's just part of the screwed up western way of doing business.

[ninepoint2]

Scabutz said:

My company keep hiring senior staff whose roles have no tangible deliverables at all.

Their deliverables are you, if you fk up the buck stops with them

[vulture1]

I'm currently training up a shop floor worker to a shift manager role. After 1 week he has stated how he never realised how much the managers actually do. The shop floor workers just don't see it as they think the manager didn't fill anything on shift.