How the heck do you get off emergency tax?
How the heck do you get off emergency tax?
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S70JPS

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621 posts

242 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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My wife started a new job in June and for some reason no P45 was issued and her previous employer paid her an extra months salary. She informed them and agreed to pay the additional salary back once she received a P45. This all happened and she submitted her P45 to her new employer. However she has remained on emergency tax. I work abroad but happen to be home at the moment and she asked me to scan her P45 so she could resend it to her new employer. I noticed that there were no payment details on it and the stated tax code was an emergency code. At this point I suspect that whoever issued the P45 was working from home and didn't have the correct information to do it properly. Her new employer is now stating that they can't process the P45 because a P6? was issued prior to the P45. We are now into several thousands of overpaid tax and my wife absolutely hates anything to do with finance. I am guessing it's not something I can do for her. Can anyone tell me what we need to do?

Doofus

32,792 posts

195 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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Call HMRC and talk to them. You're right, you can't do it for her.

S70JPS

Original Poster:

621 posts

242 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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She has just been on the phone asking me for HMRC's number. This is not going to end well for me as I asked do you want to google that or should I?

Doofus

32,792 posts

195 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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rustyuk

4,705 posts

233 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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You can request a review of your tax code online via the HMRC portal as mine got messed up by a bit of overtime before I left a job.


Countdown

46,969 posts

218 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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rustyuk said:
You can request a review of your tax code online via the HMRC portal as mine got messed up by a bit of overtime before I left a job.
This. My daughter has two parttime jobs (one with McDonalds, one with her University) and HMRC had split her tax code. She logged on and was able to correct it.

untakenname

5,247 posts

214 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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I was on 0T code for a while, ended up getting a tax rebate a couple of years later from HRMC without having to do anything on my part.


S70JPS

Original Poster:

621 posts

242 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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She has been on it his afternoon. I'll see how much grief I get for it when she gets home. Because it will be my fault. As I've not had a call I am assuming HMRC have hung up on her

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,677 posts

257 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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Doofus said:
Call HMRC and talk to them. You're right, you can't do it for her.
He can. I've done it for my missus a few times. She rings, goes through some security & then hands it over.

Best way to sort tax codes in on line. As said, you can log on and tell them stuff.

bitchstewie

63,656 posts

232 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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If you're registered with Government Gateway you can send a message online.

You may not get an acknowledgement but it seemed to work as my tax code changed.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,677 posts

257 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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What is emergency tax? Do you mean 1257L wk1? Which usually not far off what most folk have anyway (apart from the non cumulative thing)

Doofus

32,792 posts

195 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Doofus said:
Call HMRC and talk to them. You're right, you can't do it for her.
He can. I've done it for my missus a few times. She rings, goes through some security & then hands it over.

Best way to sort tax codes in on line. As said, you can log on and tell them stuff.
You said yourself, she has to ring them up.

Stick Legs

8,196 posts

187 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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My wife is a Management accountant (so not a tax accountant and doesn’t ‘represent’ me).
I ring up, verify myself then hand it over.

She sorted mine out as I had my tax code changed to K845X after a few good months which was sadly not to continue.


2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,677 posts

257 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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Doofus said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Doofus said:
Call HMRC and talk to them. You're right, you can't do it for her.
He can. I've done it for my missus a few times. She rings, goes through some security & then hands it over.

Best way to sort tax codes in on line. As said, you can log on and tell them stuff.
You said yourself, she has to ring them up.
Nah, I did the dialling. hehe

wombleh

2,278 posts

144 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
What is emergency tax? Do you mean 1257L wk1? Which usually not far off what most folk have anyway (apart from the non cumulative thing)
Isn’t the emergency code usually BR for basic rate. That one would indicate 12570 of tax free allowance, they put you on BR as they aren’t sure if you’ve already earned the allowance without paying tax so now need to pay 20% on the rest. Not sure that’d ever happen in reality though!

Second advice to go on the hmrc web portal and do it, you can tell them exactly what incomes you have and they’ll do the tax code, although it might change again after a month or two once they have pay slips through. They can do it over the phone or online.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,677 posts

257 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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wombleh said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
What is emergency tax? Do you mean 1257L wk1? Which usually not far off what most folk have anyway (apart from the non cumulative thing)
Isn’t the emergency code usually BR for basic rate. That one would indicate 12570 of tax free allowance, they put you on BR as they aren’t sure if you’ve already earned the allowance without paying tax so now need to pay 20% on the rest. Not sure that’d ever happen in reality though!

Second advice to go on the hmrc web portal and do it, you can tell them exactly what incomes you have and they’ll do the tax code, although it might change again after a month or two once they have pay slips through. They can do it over the phone or online.
It's very rare to be assigned BR. It's more usual to get 1257L. But, we are only guessing.

edc

9,480 posts

273 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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Not that it matters to the resolution but if she has overpaid tax it will be more like 0T. 1257 is very close to a regular standard allowance.

22

2,732 posts

159 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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If new employer has marked a new starter as a second job (BR code) it's hard to undo unless sent a new tax code from HMRC (they can't later become a new employee with/without P45). This is usually picked up automatically when tax circumstances become clear (from payroll submissions) but it can be s.l.o.w.

As above, get HMRC on the case.

Sheepshanks

39,031 posts

141 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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22 said:
If new employer has marked a new starter as a second job (BR code) it's hard to undo unless sent a new tax code from HMRC (they can't later become a new employee with/without P45). This is usually picked up automatically when tax circumstances become clear (from payroll submissions) but it can be s.l.o.w.

As above, get HMRC on the case.
Yes, son in law (teacher, so steady job) was on basic rate for 4 years. My wife used to work for HMRC and it should have been picked up, but it wasn’t.

S70JPS

Original Poster:

621 posts

242 months

Friday 19th November 2021
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On emergency tax she pays 40% on everything I am led to believe from googling the tax code.