New job/new culture
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anonymous-user

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76 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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Recently joined a new company in a similar role but really struggling with the culture.

Not going to provide too many details but as an example was on a conference call with 20-30 people on it where I was introduced to the team which met with complete silence, not a peep or even a cough, only missing the tumbleweed.

It seems all conference calls are the same, no chit chat, say hello at the beginning before getting on with things, only speak if spoken too.

It is so different to anything I have experienced, would appreciate any suggestions about how to deal with it.

Pothole

34,367 posts

304 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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Struggling with what, not wasting loads of time with unnecessary pleasantries?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

76 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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Pothole said:
Struggling with what, not wasting loads of time with unnecessary pleasantries?
No unnecessary pleasantries, there aren't any pleasantries, period.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

283 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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Say hi and do your job?

untakenname

5,247 posts

214 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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Pretty normal in my experience.

Meetings with a large number of participants the bystander effect kicks in, also people are fatigued with multiple online meetings over the past couple of years so are probably multi tasking and just paying minimum attention/lip service.

Thats What She Said

1,180 posts

110 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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Maybe people are just busy and want to crack on and get on with it?

Fast and Spurious

1,802 posts

110 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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They sound like a miserable bunch of s.
Get another job.

Drezza

1,465 posts

76 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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Sounds bliss, can't stand fake small talk, any vacancies?

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

208 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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Engineering? IT?

gobshite

251 posts

284 months

Saturday 4th December 2021
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I am on the same situation 2 days a week. Luckily the other 3 I am on site.

I tend to do my admin in the back ground and listen out for key words,

I actually put my outside lights up while on a teams call on Wednesday

I have maybe 3 out of the 8 meetings on my home working days where I have to actively participate, I’m am 7 months in and it’s kind of a running joke within the team

rog007

5,814 posts

246 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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gobste said:
I actually put my outside lights up while on a teams call on Wednesday
Wondered where you were; we kept shouting for you but thought your connection must have dropped (peak Teams and all that!).

Anyways; if you can have that milestone report done by 1000 today, that would be helpful. Thanks


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fourstardan

6,159 posts

166 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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Ive just joined a new org myself.

TEAMS in my last place was just meetings at every level with the usual ugly idiots I didn't want to see let alone hear so didn't bother with cameras.

This roles its new and I am keen to meet/see folk based on building new relations.

Bigger group meetings in new company have varied, people posting on the chat stream comments good/bad, interactive games on the Presos from people to keep people interested.

Maybe as someones said they are fed up of teams calls and its not jigged up enough? Maybe its your chance to build some leadership?

Maybe they don't like the senior manager running the call wink


Prohibiting

1,867 posts

140 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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Sounds pretty normal to me on Teams web calls. Enter the chat with camera and mic switched off; just works.

Pothole

34,367 posts

304 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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gottans said:
Pothole said:
Struggling with what, not wasting loads of time with unnecessary pleasantries?
No unnecessary pleasantries, there aren't any pleasantries, period.
Because they're unnecessary.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

76 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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Pothole said:
gottans said:
Pothole said:
Struggling with what, not wasting loads of time with unnecessary pleasantries?
No unnecessary pleasantries, there aren't any pleasantries, period.
Because they're unnecessary.
So if you joined a new company/team and when introduced nobody on the call bothered to say hello or even acknowledge your existence you would think that is perfectly normal? If you think any pleasantries are of no value I hope you aren't the boss as it sounds like it would be a miserable experience.

Maybe I have been lucky and previously joined companies with good cultures and sociable people over the last 30 odd years.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 5th December 16:49

pete_esp

324 posts

117 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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I can relate, it’s quite an alienating experience and one that doesn’t make integrating into the team very easy. A bit like when the new guy walks into the saloon and the music stops and everyone looks.

I’d suggest trying to have a casual call with those you will work most closely with and try to build a rapport that way. If that doesn’t go well, fire up linked in and get gone.

Pothole

34,367 posts

304 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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gottans said:
Pothole said:
gottans said:
Pothole said:
Struggling with what, not wasting loads of time with unnecessary pleasantries?
No unnecessary pleasantries, there aren't any pleasantries, period.
Because they're unnecessary.
So if you joined a new company/team and when introduced nobody on the call bothered to say hello or even acknowledge your existence you would think that is perfectly normal? If you think any pleasantries are of no value I hope you aren't the boss as it sounds like it would be a miserable experience.

Maybe I have been lucky and previously joined companies with good cultures and sociable people over the last 30 odd years.

Edited by gottans on Sunday 5th December 16:49
I don't need that from anyone. Far too much time is taken up in my workplace (face to face) with hellos and goodbyes, imho. On the rare occasions I'm on a teams call I don't need 30 people all saying hello, it's a massive waste of time. A simple "morning everyone" - from the host "MORNING!"-from everyone else is plenty. If you're not getting even that and you're "struggling" then perhaps speak to someone offline and express that, or just get on with the actual job and stop needing to be acknowledged all the time.

pb8g09

2,988 posts

91 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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I understand your frustration. I actually had this back in 2018 pre-covid. My management team was in another city and I was just left in an office to twiddle my thumbs with no introductions, no workload and I was just handed a mobile, laptop and desk. Except they hadn't told the previous incumbent it was now my desk so I had to ask him to move... They paid me handsomely at the time for my age but ended up leaving after 6 months because I was going insane.

My tip would be to try and have individual meetings to work out if there are any like-minded people in your team or department. You might find on a 1-2-1 basis people are actually keen for a new person to talk to and you actually build some really pleasant relationships. Most annoying thing in Teams is when you're having a meeting that may be of relative importance and you can see some slob sat there staring at the screen, clearly doing something else than paying attention.

CoupeKid

927 posts

87 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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My last place was like this.

Calls would start with a grunt of “All right” before diving right into the meeting. The advantage was that meetings tended to be productive and run to time.

We were quite chatty face to face though which meant that we could dispense with all the chit chat that wastes time in meetings.

Contrast that to my wife’s meetings which seem to be all chatty with people gossiping and introducing their pets. She spends her days in meetings and actually doing work in the evenings.

This doesn’t help you in the current situation but if you start to return to the workplace you might find your colleagues warm up. Or they might all dislike each other and the company in which case it’s up to you whether you can cope with that or want to move on.


vixen1700

27,689 posts

292 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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pete_esp said:
I can relate, it’s quite an alienating experience and one that doesn’t make integrating into the team very easy. A bit like when the new guy walks into the saloon and the music stops and everyone looks.

I’d suggest trying to have a casual call with those you will work most closely with and try to build a rapport that way. If that doesn’t go well, fire up linked in and get gone.
Yep.

The last five or so years (up to January) I worked in all sorts of different companies contracting and they all differed, but I did notice going from place to place the deterioation of 'decent culture' over that time.

Give it a bit of time and if it doesn't improve, just move on.