Notice period - how do you read this?
Notice period - how do you read this?
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Alan_B

Original Poster:

49 posts

94 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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What is everyone’s interpretation of this - I am in my position less than 6 months, still in probation, so I am reading it I am not obliged to give 3 months -

Thoughts?


StuTheGrouch

5,888 posts

184 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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That reads to me that they can get rid of you with a weeks notice but you're bound to the first clause (3 months)

Alan_B

Original Poster:

49 posts

94 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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Crap that’s what I was afraid of.

Is it relevant that I signed this before my employer? Meaning I don’t have a copy they signed, likely they have never signed it to be honest.

Not that I want to go balls deep with them, want it to be amicable but I really need out before 3 months.

Scrump

23,691 posts

180 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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I read that as you can give a weeks notice during probation.

Doofus

32,781 posts

195 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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Scrump said:
I read that as you can give a weeks notice during probation.
This.

dundarach

5,937 posts

250 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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StuTheGrouch said:
That reads to me that they can get rid of you with a weeks notice but you're bound to the first clause (3 months)
That's how I read it.

Why and will they hold you to it, or do you need 3 months?

What you done?

Jamescrs

5,814 posts

87 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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I read it as per Stu's post that you have to give 3 months notice at any time but in the first 6 months probationary period they can dismiss you with 1 weeks notice but it's a one way condition in their favour

StuTheGrouch

5,888 posts

184 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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I might be completely wrong (I hope I am). If you need to leave sooner than 3 months then you should have that discussion with them, they might negotiate and allow you to leave when you need to. Or, hand in your weeks notice and see what they say....

StuTheGrouch

5,888 posts

184 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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Jamescrs said:
I read it as per Stu's post that you have to give 3 months notice at any time but in the first 6 months probationary period they can dismiss you with 1 weeks notice but it's a one way condition in their favour
Glad I'm not the only one reading it that way. In my contract it says something to the effect of "Employment can be terminated by either party giving X months notice".

CarCrazyDad

4,280 posts

57 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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It's not very clear in my opinion, I would take that as 1 week notice during probation period either way and then 3 months after probation, probably best to clarify with the company

But I've not heard of any company making you give them 3 months notice in probation period, so logically that's what makes sense

Alan_B

Original Poster:

49 posts

94 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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I’m happy to give a month or even 6 weeks, so will approach it in that way and point out that I am still in probation and they should probably be fine with it. Unlikely they even know what’s in there.


Doofus

32,781 posts

195 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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Jamescrs said:
I read it as per Stu's post that you have to give 3 months notice at any time but in the first 6 months probationary period they can dismiss you with 1 weeks notice but it's a one way condition in their favour
It doesn't say that. It says during probation, notice is one week. It doesn't say it's one-sided

wiggy001

6,990 posts

293 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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Doofus said:
Jamescrs said:
I read it as per Stu's post that you have to give 3 months notice at any time but in the first 6 months probationary period they can dismiss you with 1 weeks notice but it's a one way condition in their favour
It doesn't say that. It says during probation, notice is one week. It doesn't say it's one-sided
That’s not what it says at all. It say that during probation your employment can be terminated at any time with 1 week’s notice. That’s the company terminating the employee’s employment.

Badly worded I agree but nobody should ever agree to such one sided contracts. Says a lot about the employer to be honest.

Abdul Abulbul Amir

13,179 posts

234 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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Doofus said:
Jamescrs said:
I read it as per Stu's post that you have to give 3 months notice at any time but in the first 6 months probationary period they can dismiss you with 1 weeks notice but it's a one way condition in their favour
It doesn't say that. It says during probation, notice is one week. It doesn't say it's one-sided
exactly, and not only that, there is a pilon alternative...not sure who would pay whom if the OP took up the offer.

Abdul Abulbul Amir

13,179 posts

234 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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wiggy001 said:
That’s not what it says at all. It say that during probation your employment can be terminated at any time with 1 week’s notice. That’s the company terminating the employee’s employment.
it may be what was intended but not what is written.

SlidingSideways

1,345 posts

254 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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2.1 Defines who can give notice, how to serve it, and how long the notice period is
2.2 Redefines the notice period as shorter during probation.

It doesn't redefine anything else, so I'd imagine (and IANAL) that the un-altered terms in 2.1 still stand. So, either of you can give notice in writing.

Abdul Abulbul Amir

13,179 posts

234 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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SlidingSideways said:
2.1 Defines who can give notice, now, and how long the notice period is
2.2 Redefines the notice period as shorter during probation.

It doesn't redefine anything else, so I'd imagine (and IANAL) that the un-altered terms in 2.1 still stand. So, either of you can give notice in writing.
Agreed

Doofus

32,781 posts

195 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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wiggy001 said:
Doofus said:
Jamescrs said:
I read it as per Stu's post that you have to give 3 months notice at any time but in the first 6 months probationary period they can dismiss you with 1 weeks notice but it's a one way condition in their favour
It doesn't say that. It says during probation, notice is one week. It doesn't say it's one-sided
That’s not what it says at all. It say that during probation your employment can be terminated at any time with 1 week’s notice. That’s the company terminating the employee’s employment.

Badly worded I agree but nobody should ever agree to such one sided contracts. Says a lot about the employer to be honest.
It is exactly what it says. The employee can terminate his employment with 1week's notice just as the employer can. Either party can 'terminate', and nothing in that clause says otherwise.

SydneyBridge

10,872 posts

180 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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Only one way to find out
When you resign, just say 'I would like to give x days/weeks/months notice' and see how they react

Amateurish

8,227 posts

244 months

Thursday 3rd February 2022
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I read that to mean that either party can terminate on one week's notice during the probationary period. Poor drafting.