Withdrawal of fuel benefit - EVs
Discussion
Coming up to the time to choose a new company car, and I was almost certain that I'd go for an EV. Since I started with my current employer (nearly 8 years ago) I've always had fuel cards to buy fuel for business and personal use - the exact wording in my contract of employment is "an all expensed paid company car". However I'm now being told that the company "will not pay fuel benefit for EVs". The offer, as I work from home, is only to pay for a home charging point.
Are they allowed to withdraw this benefit?
Seems a bit unfair that probably half the tax benefit of me choosing an EV will disappear as I'll have to charge it myself!
Are they allowed to withdraw this benefit?
Seems a bit unfair that probably half the tax benefit of me choosing an EV will disappear as I'll have to charge it myself!
Dilan said:
Yes I could claim that, but a benefit of the package is that my personal mileage is covered too.
Ah OK, I understand. You've lost the free fuel for personal mileage which was previously paid for by the Employer.I guess the £64m question is how much was it worth and will the employer negotiate? My guess is that "a fully expensed company car" means "fully expensed for company business" only but that is only a guess.
Out of interest if you'd decided to drive around Europe on a 2 week holiday would they have covered the fuel cost, or was there a limit?
mickyh7 said:
I ignored it it for the witty comment.
You are coming across as a proper skinflint though!
Fair enough You are coming across as a proper skinflint though!
I do a lot of personal miles and an attraction of the job when I took it was that both business and personal mileage would be covered.
They are now reneging on this in my eyes (and yes I am tight!)
Dilan said:
I work from home, or did you ignore that 'cos you were so excited about making a witty reply?
Slightly O/T but some of our staff argued that before lockdown they had unlimited free coffees/teas/soft drinks at work and now they were paying for them out of their own pocket and therefore the Employer should give them a £5 per week allowance........Countdown said:
Ah OK, I understand. You've lost the free fuel for personal mileage which was previously paid for by the Employer.
I guess the £64m question is how much was it worth and will the employer negotiate? My guess is that "a fully expensed company car" means "fully expensed for company business" only but that is only a guess.
Out of interest if you'd decided to drive around Europe on a 2 week holiday would they have covered the fuel cost, or was there a limit?
Yes, spot on. In the car I've got at the moment I use about £300-£400 of petrol a month, 95% of which is personal use. There has NEVER been any mention that the vehicle or fuel is for business use only, and I am taxed on the fuel benefit accordingly.I guess the £64m question is how much was it worth and will the employer negotiate? My guess is that "a fully expensed company car" means "fully expensed for company business" only but that is only a guess.
Out of interest if you'd decided to drive around Europe on a 2 week holiday would they have covered the fuel cost, or was there a limit?
I did take my last car to France once, and did pay for fuel as the cards I have only work in the UK!
To be fair, having the EV charger installed is worth a £800-£1000, and that pays for a lot of electric.
At current prices using overnight charging, 100 miles costs between £1.50 and £2, even if the price doubles, that £3-£4 per 100 miles.
For me, the risk here is they pay you for the mileage, but don't pay for the charger.
Also, the equivalent if a fuel card would be an account with a charging network, and that would cost them much more than recompensing part of your mileage from charging at home.
Can you work out how much it will cost you in mileage in average over a year, and ask for that as a flat rate expense?
At current prices using overnight charging, 100 miles costs between £1.50 and £2, even if the price doubles, that £3-£4 per 100 miles.
For me, the risk here is they pay you for the mileage, but don't pay for the charger.
Also, the equivalent if a fuel card would be an account with a charging network, and that would cost them much more than recompensing part of your mileage from charging at home.
Can you work out how much it will cost you in mileage in average over a year, and ask for that as a flat rate expense?
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