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Traditionally all dentists are self employed.
Usually they take a revenue share (based on UDAs) of the work they do. Clearly the practice is offering a commission based structure and also straight employment, rather than the conventional self-employment model.
Dentistry is dominated by a few huge businesses and generally the model is one of growth through acquisition. I expect the revenue share model will be reduced as more and more practices are concentrated in the hands of fewer owners.
Usually they take a revenue share (based on UDAs) of the work they do. Clearly the practice is offering a commission based structure and also straight employment, rather than the conventional self-employment model.
Dentistry is dominated by a few huge businesses and generally the model is one of growth through acquisition. I expect the revenue share model will be reduced as more and more practices are concentrated in the hands of fewer owners.
Edited by OMITN on Friday 30th May 22:08
I have no dentist knowledge but my assumption based on reading what you have posted is that there is a basic salary based on 3 days per week… a maximum bonus of £15,000 is available based on number of dental activities carried out.
It references 4,000 so I’d imagine that is the number you’d need to hit to get the £15k.
Based on a 3 day week with 5 weeks of per year, that’s 30 activities per day… which, when accounting for sick days and no shows etc seems high to me… but then I have no knowledge of the dentistry world.
I also assume there are additional earnings if you take on private clients and can upsell them a new set of veneers or a whitening kit etc.
No idea if I’m right but on reading what you have posted - I would guess the above 🤷♂️
It references 4,000 so I’d imagine that is the number you’d need to hit to get the £15k.
Based on a 3 day week with 5 weeks of per year, that’s 30 activities per day… which, when accounting for sick days and no shows etc seems high to me… but then I have no knowledge of the dentistry world.
I also assume there are additional earnings if you take on private clients and can upsell them a new set of veneers or a whitening kit etc.
No idea if I’m right but on reading what you have posted - I would guess the above 🤷♂️
OMITN said:
Dentistry is dominated by a few huge businesses and generally the model is one of growth through acquisition.
I hadn't realized that. So basically the same approach that's currently screwing up veterinary practices. 
Oursdentist here is still local and independent, as far as I can tell.
Apologies about the use of the word "promise". I don't have an issue with the "up to" on this occasion.
My issue is that most people would assume the bonus is a yearly recurrent event.
It turns out it's only a one-off for year one, and then the bonus stops. In other words it's a welcome bonus but performance based.
It's quite usual in the industry but I feel it's not transparent and potentially misleading.
My issue is that most people would assume the bonus is a yearly recurrent event.
It turns out it's only a one-off for year one, and then the bonus stops. In other words it's a welcome bonus but performance based.
It's quite usual in the industry but I feel it's not transparent and potentially misleading.
nickfrog said:
Apologies about the use of the word "promise". I don't have an issue with the "up to" on this occasion.
My issue is that most people would assume the bonus is a yearly recurrent event.
It turns out it's only a one-off for year one, and then the bonus stops. In other words it's a welcome bonus but performance based.
It's quite usual in the industry but I feel it's not transparent and potentially misleading.
Bonus schemes are normally a permanent feature rather than just in year 1. My issue is that most people would assume the bonus is a yearly recurrent event.
It turns out it's only a one-off for year one, and then the bonus stops. In other words it's a welcome bonus but performance based.
It's quite usual in the industry but I feel it's not transparent and potentially misleading.
Surely this just results in dentists playing musical chairs and moving jobs every year, or employers having to offer it again as an incentive to stay.
Actual said:
Mrs Actual spent £8K on her teeth so 2 customers and you've made your bonus.
My missus was nearer to £25k. After one of the later appointments she mentioned "Raymond was saying he has bought a new boat", It better have my name on the side of it was what I was thinking lol.Gassing Station | Jobs & Employment Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff