Office or full time WFH
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So at final stage of a job application, at present Im full time WFH the new job is 5 days a week in the office.
If Im sucessful it will be approx 13K uplift in pay, the pension is a little better in that the employer puts 4% rather than the basic 3% and they have death in service.
Looking at the figures at the top end of the pay bracket it will be approx uplift of £360ish after commute costs and lunch costs
Whilst I dont object to that extra trying to figure out if its worth leaving full time WFH.. over the past couple of years Ive spent the extra time getting better qualifications and preparing for the next job
If Im sucessful it will be approx 13K uplift in pay, the pension is a little better in that the employer puts 4% rather than the basic 3% and they have death in service.
Looking at the figures at the top end of the pay bracket it will be approx uplift of £360ish after commute costs and lunch costs
Whilst I dont object to that extra trying to figure out if its worth leaving full time WFH.. over the past couple of years Ive spent the extra time getting better qualifications and preparing for the next job
Depends on how tolerant you are of commuting and offices, and how horrible the office is.
I have to go in once or twice a month. The drive is a bit over an hour but mostly not in traffic, but the office is noisy and bright and I don't seem to get anything done there. Others prefer that environment.
What I have found is that stepping-stone jobs are generally no fun, so maybe have a plan.
I have to go in once or twice a month. The drive is a bit over an hour but mostly not in traffic, but the office is noisy and bright and I don't seem to get anything done there. Others prefer that environment.
What I have found is that stepping-stone jobs are generally no fun, so maybe have a plan.
Circa 18% which is good, I'm not complaining about the uplift, and on the plus side they have been very open about it being 5 days in office with no option for WFH.
It's more thinking hang on at my current place and look for a hybrid or remote in the new year if things pickup or jump now.. at my age don't want to job hop etc
It's more thinking hang on at my current place and look for a hybrid or remote in the new year if things pickup or jump now.. at my age don't want to job hop etc
current place day to day is great, really good boss probably best Ive had in the past 20 years or so.. he has been driving me to get certifications done for my own good not because we need them as an org. The team I work in is great and I do really enjoy the work.
so essentially this is all about cash, not working conditions. It was an agency that reached out to me rather than me making an application. I am very lucky where I am in that I do have a good working enviroment however we dont really get payrises and so my wage has stagnated for the last 5 or 6 years
so essentially this is all about cash, not working conditions. It was an agency that reached out to me rather than me making an application. I am very lucky where I am in that I do have a good working enviroment however we dont really get payrises and so my wage has stagnated for the last 5 or 6 years
Five days in the office for a £13k uplift? £360 a month so £60 a week.
I think you would come to regret this - I wouldn’t do this unless the uplift was well into the £20k. It’s a scenario I’ve run through many times as my job is wfh instead of commuting Rossendale (Lancs) to Leeds daily on the M62. The stress and fatigue were killers.
It’s a “don’t do it” from me.
I think you would come to regret this - I wouldn’t do this unless the uplift was well into the £20k. It’s a scenario I’ve run through many times as my job is wfh instead of commuting Rossendale (Lancs) to Leeds daily on the M62. The stress and fatigue were killers.
It’s a “don’t do it” from me.
Dog Star said:
Five days in the office for a £13k uplift? £360 a month so £60 a week.
I think you would come to regret this - I wouldn’t do this unless the uplift was well into the £20k. It’s a scenario I’ve run through many times as my job is wfh instead of commuting Rossendale (Lancs) to Leeds daily on the M62. The stress and fatigue were killers.
It’s a “don’t do it” from me.
Especially so if it is £13k before tax.I think you would come to regret this - I wouldn’t do this unless the uplift was well into the £20k. It’s a scenario I’ve run through many times as my job is wfh instead of commuting Rossendale (Lancs) to Leeds daily on the M62. The stress and fatigue were killers.
It’s a “don’t do it” from me.
macstorm73 said:
current place day to day is great, really good boss probably best Ive had in the past 20 years or so.. he has been driving me to get certifications done for my own good not because we need them as an org. The team I work in is great and I do really enjoy the work.
so essentially this is all about cash, not working conditions. It was an agency that reached out to me rather than me making an application. I am very lucky where I am in that I do have a good working enviroment however we dont really get payrises and so my wage has stagnated for the last 5 or 6 years
Why don't you go to your current employer to discuss improved pay & conditions with a cogent argument why it would be appropriate. Don't just say "I'm leaving", tell them you have been approached, this is the deal you have been offered & that efectively you have had a 29% pay cut since you have started there as there have been no pay rises. Point out the cost of recruiting your replacement v the cost of retaining you - they are unlikley to find a replacement at your current salary. so essentially this is all about cash, not working conditions. It was an agency that reached out to me rather than me making an application. I am very lucky where I am in that I do have a good working enviroment however we dont really get payrises and so my wage has stagnated for the last 5 or 6 years
Dog Star said:
Five days in the office for a £13k uplift? £360 a month so £60 a week.
I think you would come to regret this - I wouldn’t do this unless the uplift was well into the £20k. It’s a scenario I’ve run through many times as my job is wfh instead of commuting Rossendale (Lancs) to Leeds daily on the M62. The stress and fatigue were killers.
It’s a “don’t do it” from me.
This.I think you would come to regret this - I wouldn’t do this unless the uplift was well into the £20k. It’s a scenario I’ve run through many times as my job is wfh instead of commuting Rossendale (Lancs) to Leeds daily on the M62. The stress and fatigue were killers.
It’s a “don’t do it” from me.
You must be mental to move from WFH to 5 days office for £60 a week.
What the OP hasn't stated, is how long the commute is? is it rural or city? or how difficult it is to get to the office? This is the absolutely crucial question IMO. If the new jobs is say, 15 mins in your car and they have their own office car park, or it's only 15-20 mins on a train/tube door-to-door, then yeah, maybe it's worth it. Maybe.
But any more commuting time or stress than that.... for £60 a week? No chance.
Also factor the little things into going back to an office:
You will be spending time every week ironing shirts and trousers, and polishing shoes.
You will be missing all those spare moments at home where you can quickly do household jobs.
You'll spend way more than you think in office working. You'll get lazy and start going to the sandwich shop every day rather than taking lunch. You'll browse some shops at lunchtime and maybe buy things.
etc etc.
t. Slow.Patrol said:
What is the commute like?
Will you be driving, how far away is the office? What is the traffic like?
I think people tend to skip over this part but commuting is a huge factor in your quality of life. There isn't a lot of joy to be found from sitting in crawling traffic, or waiting for a bus or a train, and it can take up a significant percentage of your day.Will you be driving, how far away is the office? What is the traffic like?
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