WTD Project / Programme Management Opportunities

WTD Project / Programme Management Opportunities

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ian in lancs

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3,842 posts

212 months

Sunday 28th October 2007
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BAE Systems’ Project Management people play a central role in ensuring the delivery of our Projects to time, budget and customers’ expectations. They are involved in all phases of the life-cycles of our Projects - from bid preparation and submission through development, manufacturing, and in-service support

Our teams work across the Business in both the Projects and the functional areas. You could find yourself embedded in an Integrated Product Team (IPT) in one of our major product streams; or working within a central Project Office; or assigned to one of the shared service areas such as Engineering. Wherever you’re placed, you will find yourself in a multi-disciplined environment working alongside staff from a wide variety of other functional backgrounds such as Engineering, Commercial or Manufacturing.

In all cases, our Project Management people are governed by a central project management functional team. As well as ensuring that everyone has access to the appropriate tools and processes, the central Project Management team takes professional responsibility for the career development of all of our Project Management People.

We provide a world-class training and development framework; company funded APMP examinations; a career development forum; and the opportunity to work in different projects and different stages of the life-cycle through your career.

Salaries £24-40k

Location North West Coast

http://www.airsystemscareers.com/Opportunities--Pr...


James_Surridge

34 posts

213 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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I am about to get out of the Army and become a Project Manager in the Telecommunications world hopefully.

Currently in Iraq.

What advise, courses, salary am I to expect?

ian in lancs

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3,842 posts

212 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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Depends on what quals and experience you're leaving the Army with and to some extent your rank. I assume you're in signals or REME, have at least an HNC/D and maybe an NCO. You're the kind of engineer we're looking for and you'll find more details on the website mentioned. To do Project Management in BAES would require PM experience and ideally qualifications, APM, ISEB, Prince2, MSP or similar. Have one of those and we should be talking!

The package and career development a huge company like BAES offer is great and stuff you could work on is fantastic. Telecomms industry doesn't come close!

James_Surridge

34 posts

213 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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Booken on my APM and PRINCE2 in Jan

casbar

1,112 posts

229 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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You can do PRINCE2 Practioner in a week, but if you go for work they will ask for experience of using it. APM will take a while longer and is a right royal.

I'm ex Military, have been out for some 10 years, after doing 25 years, its still not easy to get good roles.

So good luck.

E36GUY

5,906 posts

232 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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You're going to really struggle to get project programme managers for that money Ian. It's very low for the current market. Obviously these are averages and vary greatly betweeen industry sectors but current rates at the moment are

Role Permanent Contract
Lower Upper(K) Lower Upper(£ph)

Prog Mgr 65k 100k 55 100+

Proj Mrg 65k 75k 40 60+

casbar

1,112 posts

229 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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There are loads of PM roles around now between 45k - 50k, but would expect a lot more for a Programme Managers role. Location does have an effect smile

ian in lancs

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3,842 posts

212 months

Thursday 1st November 2007
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E36GUY said:
You're going to really struggle to get project programme managers for that money Ian
Yep, recognise what you're saying. Our salaries for comparable capability are market driven and there are sector and regional variations but we're looking for people to support the Project Managers and Programme Managers that are paid that and more. Actually the internal terms we use for these managers is contract holders, project or programme directors, delivery directors. A contract would be circa £100m, far more complex and challenging than typical IT or finance sector projects and they're likely to hold several contracts. Delivery Directors might have a portfolio worth £1bn. People of that calibre we can't easily get from the marketplace (capability rather than salary issues) so we tend to grow from the people we recruit at the salaries mentioned; spending considerably on training, performance review and pro-active career development. Of course if someone thinks they are of the experienced contract holder calibre get in touch! Or get in touch if you fancy progressing to that point!

Edited by ian in lancs on Thursday 1st November 20:12

E36GUY

5,906 posts

232 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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ian in lancs said:
E36GUY said:
You're going to really struggle to get project programme managers for that money Ian
Yep, recognise what you're saying. Our salaries for comparable capability are market driven and there are sector and regional variations but we're looking for people to support the Project Managers and Programme Managers that are paid that and more. Actually the internal terms we use for these managers is contract holders, project or programme directors, delivery directors. A contract would be circa £100m, far more complex and challenging than typical IT or finance sector projects and they're likely to hold several contracts. Delivery Directors might have a portfolio worth £1bn. People of that calibre we can't easily get from the marketplace (capability rather than salary issues) so we tend to grow from the people we recruit at the salaries mentioned; spending considerably on training, performance review and pro-active career development. Of course if someone thinks they are of the experienced contract holder calibre get in touch! Or get in touch if you fancy progressing to that point!

Edited by ian in lancs on Thursday 1st November 20:12
OK, but your add doesn't say that! It appears to be asking for Project/Programme managers rather than project support staff who will be mentored and developed!

ian in lancs

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3,842 posts

212 months

Friday 2nd November 2007
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I think it does !!!

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BAE Systems’ Project Management people play a central role in ensuring the delivery of our Projects to time, budget and customers’ expectations. They are involved in all phases of the life-cycles of our Projects - from bid preparation and submission through development, manufacturing, and in-service support

Our teams work across the Business in both the Projects and the functional areas. You could find yourself embedded in an Integrated Product Team (IPT) in one of our major product streams; or working within a central Project Office; or assigned to one of the shared service areas such as Engineering. Wherever you’re placed, you will find yourself in a multi-disciplined environment working alongside staff from a wide variety of other functional backgrounds such as Engineering, Commercial or Manufacturing.

In all cases, our Project Management people are governed by a central project management functional team. As well as ensuring that everyone has access to the appropriate tools and processes, the central Project Management team takes professional responsibility for the career development of all of our Project Management People.

We provide a world-class training and development framework; company funded APMP examinations; a career development forum; and the opportunity to work in different projects and different stages of the life-cycle through your career.

Salaries £24-40k

Location North West Coast

http://www.airsystemscareers.com/Opportunities--Pr...

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Either way if you've got what it takes get in touch - salary and the entire benefit package is competitive. BUPA, Shares, Bonus, car schemes and discounts [shame we can't get Hummer's - we make those too!], financial services, nursery, fully equipped gym, Lloyds Bank, cafe's, restaurant, secure on-site parking, etc etc - we even have a dentist on site! The local BMW dealer and other dealers either collect cars for service or run a courtesy bus!



Edited by ian in lancs on Friday 2nd November 18:26