Jobseekers Allowance
Discussion
You often hear about the workshy raking in vast amounts from the state for doing f
k all. Here's another side of it.
My 18 year old son has just finished a part-time college course to improve his maths qualification, and is starting a full-time engineering course in August. Meantime he's trying to find a job to keep him going until then. .Not easy at the moment (as I know - I'm facing redundancy myself). Even MacDonalds aren't recruiting burger flippers at the moment! He's had a couple of part-time jobs, but they ended.
So he signed on at the local jobcentre. He wanted help in getting a job, but also to find out if he was entitled to any allowances.
The jobcentre staff have been as useful as a concrete parachute. Rude, unhelpful and unwilling to help.
He signed on, and then got a letter from the jobcentre to say that he was entitled to zilch. Nothing. Not a penny. He wrote to find out why, and got a phone call to say that his claim had been incorrectly input as a claim for contribution-based JSA. He has of course no NI contributions to speak of, so no JSA. He was told that the error would be corrected and his claim processed.
He got a call on Friday to say that his claim was refused as he was a full-time student. When he called to say that he wasn't, he was told to produce a letter from his college to confirm that he wasn't!
So he now has to produce evidence to disprove a negative
He's in dispair and I'm getting the same way.
No doubt if he were a gay, junkie, alcoholic asylum seeker they'd be throwing money at him.
fking jobsworths! He is now considering emigrating 
k all. Here's another side of it.My 18 year old son has just finished a part-time college course to improve his maths qualification, and is starting a full-time engineering course in August. Meantime he's trying to find a job to keep him going until then. .Not easy at the moment (as I know - I'm facing redundancy myself). Even MacDonalds aren't recruiting burger flippers at the moment! He's had a couple of part-time jobs, but they ended.
So he signed on at the local jobcentre. He wanted help in getting a job, but also to find out if he was entitled to any allowances.
The jobcentre staff have been as useful as a concrete parachute. Rude, unhelpful and unwilling to help.
He signed on, and then got a letter from the jobcentre to say that he was entitled to zilch. Nothing. Not a penny. He wrote to find out why, and got a phone call to say that his claim had been incorrectly input as a claim for contribution-based JSA. He has of course no NI contributions to speak of, so no JSA. He was told that the error would be corrected and his claim processed.
He got a call on Friday to say that his claim was refused as he was a full-time student. When he called to say that he wasn't, he was told to produce a letter from his college to confirm that he wasn't!
So he now has to produce evidence to disprove a negative
He's in dispair and I'm getting the same way.
No doubt if he were a gay, junkie, alcoholic asylum seeker they'd be throwing money at him.
f
king jobsworths! He is now considering emigrating matchmaker said:
The jobcentre staff have been as useful as a concrete parachute. Rude, unhelpful and unwilling to help.
Yep, that about sums it up!I was forced to sign on for the first time in my life last year and it's not been the nicest of experiences.
The majority of the staff at the local centre are rude, unhelpful, judgmental and down right ignorant. Even the majority of the security guards are jumped up, judgemental types...
Even the phone staff were rude
matchmaker said:
V8mate said:
He's thinking of emigrating because he can't get dole-money?
Wish him well from me!
Because he can't get a job.............and because at 18 he's already fed up with this country Wish him well from me!
to my post.I can't imagine why anyone thinks they have a better chance of being owed a living abroad than they do here.
Mate of mine was laid off in December. Worked since 16 in the same company, he's now 42.
No work to mention of locally, he's applied to the shops, factories even McD. Now has been told he has to give up his flat as it's 2 bed and move to a 1 bed that will save the grand total of sod all of the rent and incur all the costs of moving and decorating / carpeting etc.
Ridiculous, payed into the system for all his working life and gets sod all.
Savings just about gone now prospects not looking good!
No work to mention of locally, he's applied to the shops, factories even McD. Now has been told he has to give up his flat as it's 2 bed and move to a 1 bed that will save the grand total of sod all of the rent and incur all the costs of moving and decorating / carpeting etc.
Ridiculous, payed into the system for all his working life and gets sod all.
Savings just about gone now prospects not looking good!
matchmaker said:
He got a call on Friday to say that his claim was refused as he was a full-time student. When he called to say that he wasn't, he was told to produce a letter from his college to confirm that he wasn't!
So he now has to produce evidence to disprove a negative
He's in dispair and I'm getting the same way.
No doubt if he were a gay, junkie, alcoholic asylum seeker they'd be throwing money at him.
fking jobsworths! He is now considering emigrating
I'm in a similar boat, but atleast the job center to say they where refusing his claim, they put my claim on hold without telling me so I had to ring them to find out what was happening. I need a letter to say I left my course which adds the vagueries of the postal service to the ineptitude of the job center.So he now has to produce evidence to disprove a negative
He's in dispair and I'm getting the same way.
No doubt if he were a gay, junkie, alcoholic asylum seeker they'd be throwing money at him.
f
king jobsworths! He is now considering emigrating Edited by Engineer1 on Tuesday 28th April 14:23
try reading this:
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and im still waiting for my letter for back dated credits and i cant get through to the job center and at the moment im going to walk down there and bk them if they dont get their act together whether its their HQs fault again or not.
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and im still waiting for my letter for back dated credits and i cant get through to the job center and at the moment im going to walk down there and b
k them if they dont get their act together whether its their HQs fault again or not.I can sympathises with your son in many ways. When I was that age. No one would employ me. I spent 2 years trying to get a part time job. Eventually I had to go on something called the 'New Deal' eventually got a job from that. Then had to leave said job 5 months later. I'm now 3 jobs down the line from that one. Tell him to keep at it, it will work out eventually.
Good luck.
Good luck.
The very name Jobcentre is a misnomer. The only reason any job adverts appear there is that they do not charge a fee. The "advisors" have practically no experience in getting jobs for themselves, therefore why do people expect any advice of value. It's really just a big con trick and the Government could do a lot worse than fire their sorry arses and employ people with real life job seeking experience.
ianash said:
The very name Jobcentre is a misnomer. The only reason any job adverts appear there is that they do not charge a fee. The "advisors" have practically no experience in getting jobs for themselves, therefore why do people expect any advice of value. It's really just a big con trick and the Government could do a lot worse than fire their sorry arses and employ people with real life job seeking experience.
What like recruitment agencies?They almost rank up there with Estate agents.... They almost always are friendly and chummy towards you to get you on the books promise to send your details off to a company and then hear nothing back, not even bad news... a simple case of no they dont want you not enough a, b and c so you can improve... no you get the cold shoulder and not even a return phone call/email.
I found out one hadnt even sent my details off, his colleague did and an interview the next day was sorted....
note... I said almost always... there are some good ones out there...
matchmaker said:
He's in dispair and I'm getting the same way.
If he's really in despair over this then I despair for his future. Whilst I admire his gumption in trying to get a job, to be in despair & thinking of leaving the country because he can't get dole money for a few months....well I really don't know whats going to happen to him when he has a real problem. Tell him to pull himself together & make the most of 3 months off.
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