Bloody useless agencies.

[cazzer]

Found my perfect job on a Jobs website.
I want to talk to the recruitment agent about it.
They've had the answerphone on for the last two days.
How bloody useless is that?

[littlegreenfairy]

Phoned one 8 times since yesterday - each time they promise to call me back.

Do they? Do they balls. AND it is the company that placed me in my current role (mind you the woman dealing with me was rather good and has since become a housewife which is a real shame)

[cazzer]

At least yours answers the phone.

[littlegreenfairy]

cazzer said:

At least yours answers the phone.

SOMEONE answers the phone...it's no different to an answering machine. I think its alive anyhow...hmm not so sure now.

[maix27]

Most companies use more than one agency, is the role advertised anywhere else?

Do you know who the company is? You can usually work it back from a job add...

[cazzer]

I've tried, no joy.
And they're not answering today either dammit.

[Metroarea]

cazzer said:

Found my perfect job on a Jobs website.
I want to talk to the recruitment agent about it.
They've had the answerphone on for the last two days.
How bloody useless is that?

Cazzer - if you want to send me a link to the job ad I'll do some sniffing aroudn and see if I can work out who the role is with. I can try and open a door there for you if you want? We may even work with them already.

[cazzer]

Metroarea said:

cazzer said:

Found my perfect job on a Jobs website.
I want to talk to the recruitment agent about it.
They've had the answerphone on for the last two days.
How bloody useless is that?

Cazzer - if you want to send me a link to the job ad I'll do some sniffing aroudn and see if I can work out who the role is with. I can try and open a door there for you if you want? We may even work with them already.

YHM

[odyssey2200]

I went through just under a year of unemployment up to last February and know the frustration thatthese idiots can cause.

I found this in one of the trade mags and cut it out to stick next to my screen
Says it all really

[maix27]

odyssey2200 said:

I went through just under a year of unemployment up to last February and know the frustration thatthese idiots can cause.

I found this in one of the trade mags and cut it out to stick next to my screen
Says it all really

I think it's very easy to have a go at people in recruitment. You're right, there are a lot of people in the industry who are cowboys, but i don't think that much more than other industries. I know we're a middle man as such and some say there's no need for us but if there wasn't then we wouldn't be around. It's as simple as that. I like to think that i care about my candidates and i've got lots of happy candidates who come back to me again and again. It's the same with builders no doubt...

[littlegreenfairy]

Like everything in life, there are good ones and bad ones.

The bad ones have included:

Telling me that I made up a University name (Imperial) as they'd never heard of it and am I sure it wasn't a Further Education College

Sending off my CV with spelling mistakes and incorrect information as they'd written it to sound "better, like"

Changing my job title and description to make it more employable.

Not knowing anything about the sector I was applying to (and I don't know a lot, that's why I'm at the bottom of the food chain, but I'm learning!) and insisting that the course I am doing isn't related at all.

Thinking call centre work is just what I'm looking for as the perfect career and hassling me to go to an interview.

Shouting at me down the phone and verbal abuse to get me to go to an interview for a job that I'd not even said my CV could go to - I didn't want it and had no intention of going. Did end up going just for the interview practice and so it would stop the phone calls.

And on the basis of that... I think its time I found a good one again

[Alfa_75_Steve]

When I was made redundant late last year, I dealt with 3 agencies, one of which got me the role I was being made redundant from.

The one I'd used to get the then current job I spoke to every few days about new roles being advertised - plenty of promises to call me back, but never did.

I tried another well-known agency in the field, I'd used them several years back, but the person I used had moved on. They said they'd got me an interview for the role, then cancelled it less than 24 hours before it was due. I approached the company direct, who then went running back to the agency. Agency got very stroppy and have now blacklisted me...

Final agency contacted me about a role which was absolutely perfect for me. Spoke to them every couple of days for 2 weeks, nothing happened - in the end they said 'we'd advise you not to progress as <insert company name> are being very unprofessional' - in frustration I went direct to said company and found out they didn't have any roles available and hadn't ever contacted the agency.

The job I ended up getting was the first one I applied for - I'd applied direct through their recruitment website with no agency involved.

I'd be very reluctant to use an agency again.

[Dupont666]

I have got through to a final interview and the recruiter told me on wednesday evening that all that was needed was to arrange an interview with the head guy in the US. For 2 days now I have been fobbed off by them saying that they cant contact him and its very frustrating but im not sure what to do about it as they have very good relations with the hiring company.

So annoying just sat here waiting for the call for the final interview.

[Alfa_75_Steve]

Dupont666 said:

I have got through to a final interview and the recruiter told me on wednesday evening that all that was needed was to arrange an interview with the head guy in the US. For 2 days now I have been fobbed off by them saying that they cant contact him and its very frustrating but im not sure what to do about it as they have very good relations with the hiring company.

So annoying just sat here waiting for the call for the final interview.

Is the 'final interview' the first one you've had with the employer?

[Dupont666]

Alfa_75_Steve said:

Dupont666 said:

I have got through to a final interview and the recruiter told me on wednesday evening that all that was needed was to arrange an interview with the head guy in the US. For 2 days now I have been fobbed off by them saying that they cant contact him and its very frustrating but im not sure what to do about it as they have very good relations with the hiring company.

So annoying just sat here waiting for the call for the final interview.

Is the 'final interview' the first one you've had with the employer?

nope, been through the technical tests, the business knowledge tests and the interview with the hiring manager in london, it was then going through HR and then to the head guy for the final one.... thats were its gone quiet.

I do know the head guy is supposed to be on gardening leave, but its annoying when they have the go ahead from everyone else and rang me at 8pm wednesday to tell me all this.

[Silver993tt]

It really surprises me that so many companies (particularly large) use agencies at all. They provide a very expensive service and never really know the market & skills that they are dealing with. In the end they provide an on paper low unit cost per individual to a company but the skill sets are generally very poor. The company then has to take on two or three to get a job done, so in effect paying considerably more than if they selected an experienced person that was multi-skilled in the first place.

This is very common in teh IT industry where HR departments in companies are only looking at the cheapest possible rates/costs. They are never accountable for any of the deliverey that the people they recommend have to provide.

Some companies have approached us for some of our services and then when we've agreed we are a good match, they tell us to go via one of their agencies! Quite unbelievable. When that happens we always walk away. It's just an additional cost overhead for the company and more paperwork for everyone whilst the intermediate agency brings absolutely nothing to the table whatsoever apart from the overhead. Companies are always banging on about managing costs but they still insist on using intermediaries which simple add to the overall cost.

[Kermit power]

Dupont666 said:

Alfa_75_Steve said:

Dupont666 said:

I have got through to a final interview and the recruiter told me on wednesday evening that all that was needed was to arrange an interview with the head guy in the US. For 2 days now I have been fobbed off by them saying that they cant contact him and its very frustrating but im not sure what to do about it as they have very good relations with the hiring company.

So annoying just sat here waiting for the call for the final interview.

Is the 'final interview' the first one you've had with the employer?

nope, been through the technical tests, the business knowledge tests and the interview with the hiring manager in london, it was then going through HR and then to the head guy for the final one.... thats were its gone quiet.

I do know the head guy is supposed to be on gardening leave, but its annoying when they have the go ahead from everyone else and rang me at 8pm wednesday to tell me all this.

I don't understand that last statement. If the head guy is on gardening leave then why on earth is he involved in the interview process?

Having said that, if he is, and the company aren't willing to change the process, I'm not sure what the recruitment company can do other than keep you informed? It's hardly surprising that someone on gardening leave in August is proving tricky to get hold of, is it?

[Dupont666]

Kermit power said:

Dupont666 said:

Alfa_75_Steve said:

Dupont666 said:

I have got through to a final interview and the recruiter told me on wednesday evening that all that was needed was to arrange an interview with the head guy in the US. For 2 days now I have been fobbed off by them saying that they cant contact him and its very frustrating but im not sure what to do about it as they have very good relations with the hiring company.

So annoying just sat here waiting for the call for the final interview.

Is the 'final interview' the first one you've had with the employer?

nope, been through the technical tests, the business knowledge tests and the interview with the hiring manager in london, it was then going through HR and then to the head guy for the final one.... thats were its gone quiet.

I do know the head guy is supposed to be on gardening leave, but its annoying when they have the go ahead from everyone else and rang me at 8pm wednesday to tell me all this.

I don't understand that last statement. If the head guy is on gardening leave then why on earth is he involved in the interview process?

Having said that, if he is, and the company aren't willing to change the process, I'm not sure what the recruitment company can do other than keep you informed? It's hardly surprising that someone on gardening leave in August is proving tricky to get hold of, is it?

thats my hopes but its annoying being contacted 3-4 times a day doing all the processes and get past them and then it all stops.... whilst they wait.

fancy a drink in hole in the wall some time?

[cazzer]

anonymous said:

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It's a bit specific for them to have made up tbh.

[Scraggles]

few years ago went to some agency who had this great job for me, but in the mean time, why not goto work for rover cars, gave us all the tips of the things not to say and we all got the temp job

money was ok, work was ste and some old injuries flared up, agency kept fobbing me off and came a point when it hurt to do certain jobs, me and management had a nice, honest and frank chat about the agency, think the agency lost the contract soon after and found a better job