Do people really want a job???
Do people really want a job???
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chris52

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1,560 posts

210 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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I recentley put a job vacancy I had for a car valeter in the job centre, within 3 hours I had 17 interviews set up for that afternoon, so I cleared my schedule and dedicated that afternoon to see everyone. Out of 17 people who had called for the job only 4 actually turned up. One lad who called even had the nerve to try argue the fact that he would only come for an interview if! IN hi own words "I'm only gonna come down if your gonna give us the job"

Now I know its not the best job in the world and the pay isn't great but its full time permanent employement above the national minimum wage.

What is wrong with people these days, is it really that much better to be unemployed??

C

diesel head

391 posts

236 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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In a word yes!

bunyarra

325 posts

239 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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Yup - even when offering jobs in the 20k+ level, we often have no shows with no courtesy calls. We have had people accept then never turn up for the job and others than decide the day they are supposed to start that they changed their mind.

Grrr ... and I swear it is getting worse.

T89 Callan

8,422 posts

220 months

Saturday 19th September 2009
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bunyarra said:
Yup - even when offering jobs in the 20k+ level, we often have no shows with no courtesy calls. We have had people accept then never turn up for the job and others than decide the day they are supposed to start that they changed their mind.

Grrr ... and I swear it is getting worse.
During two previous employments when I have been there new people have gone through the entire interview process, got the job and then not bothered to turn up.

fking mental.

The Riddler

6,565 posts

224 months

Saturday 19th September 2009
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Chris, if this vacancy isnt yet filled can you email me the details?

I've got valeting experience.

dreamz

5,299 posts

220 months

Saturday 19th September 2009
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why work when you can get a decent enough living from sitting around all day?

my neighbours at the moment are like that - they just wanna laze around doing nothing knowin their rent is paid, this and that are paid and all they have to do is buy cases of lager from the local asda.

i said to them once that finding a job isnt that hard - i know it isnt but the jobs you can get are the ones where they make you do work and stuff.

welcome to future

chris52

Original Poster:

1,560 posts

210 months

Saturday 19th September 2009
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The Riddler said:
Chris, if this vacancy isnt yet filled can you email me the details?

I've got valeting experience.
Sorry I did take on one of the 4 that bothered to turn up.


Chris

magpie215

5,000 posts

216 months

Saturday 19th September 2009
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dreamz said:
my neighbours at the moment are like that - they just wanna laze around doing nothing knowin their rent is paid, this and that are paid and all they have to do is buy cases of lager from the local asda.
This is the big problem, when you total up the free dental care free eye care rent paid and benefit paid out plus whatever else you can get you need to be earning north of 20K to break even....wrong very very wrong IMO

esselte

14,626 posts

294 months

Saturday 19th September 2009
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bunyarra said:
Yup - even when offering jobs in the 20k+ level, we often have no shows with no courtesy calls. .
To be honest a lot of companies don't bother to even send out Dear John letters when people have been unsuccessful in interviews or haven't even been considered for interview, so it works both ways...

okgo

41,882 posts

225 months

Saturday 19th September 2009
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We were advertising for a trainee, 12 people invited down for a day long session, 6 confirmed 3 turned up...

Its not great money at the start but, just odd that people didn't bother to give it a try..

cazzer

8,883 posts

275 months

Saturday 19th September 2009
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esselte said:
bunyarra said:
Yup - even when offering jobs in the 20k+ level, we often have no shows with no courtesy calls. .
To be honest a lot of companies don't bother to even send out Dear John letters when people have been unsuccessful in interviews or haven't even been considered for interview, so it works both ways...
Good point.
I've send 34 applications for jobs in the last 6 weeks.
I've had one thanks but no thanks back.
Nothing from the other 33.

The Riddler

6,565 posts

224 months

Saturday 19th September 2009
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chris52 said:
The Riddler said:
Chris, if this vacancy isnt yet filled can you email me the details?

I've got valeting experience.
Sorry I did take on one of the 4 that bothered to turn up.


Chris
No problem. If you ever need an occasional day worker drop me a message, i work nights at the moment.

bunyarra

325 posts

239 months

Monday 21st September 2009
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esselte said:
bunyarra said:
Yup - even when offering jobs in the 20k+ level, we often have no shows with no courtesy calls. .
To be honest a lot of companies don't bother to even send out Dear John letters when people have been unsuccessful in interviews or haven't even been considered for interview, so it works both ways...
We will always give feedback to recruitment companies on all candidates we see or they submit for interview. The problem comes from direct CV submissions. We can get 60-80 CVs for a job advert; 90% are just numpty applications and really do not merit the 5 mins each to reply (not even vaguely qualified; storm of spelling/grammar mistakes; no work permit etc.). The remaining will probably get 1st interviews and then feedback on the results.

We will also screen out recruitment companies very early on it if they submit CVs they have clearly never read or vetted; if they don't even pretend to do work for their 10% fee then they get no business from us and are put on an ignore list.

Bill Carr

2,234 posts

261 months

Monday 21st September 2009
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cazzer said:
esselte said:
bunyarra said:
Yup - even when offering jobs in the 20k+ level, we often have no shows with no courtesy calls. .
To be honest a lot of companies don't bother to even send out Dear John letters when people have been unsuccessful in interviews or haven't even been considered for interview, so it works both ways...
Good point.
I've send 34 applications for jobs in the last 6 weeks.
I've had one thanks but no thanks back.
Nothing from the other 33.
That mirrors my post-uni job-hunting experience almost exactly.

timatno21

21 posts

202 months

Monday 21st September 2009
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One of my best jobs when I was 18 was valetting the press cars for BMW at their Bracknell HQ. Got to drive them round the car park to blow the water out of the gullies before drying. The 6 Series were my favourite.. The press journalists were pigs - I am sure they are the same even after 25 years.

Then at 22 had my own valetting business travelling all over sorting the 2nd have dealer cars. Work to a finish so a few hours kip in the van overnight. Damm hard work but perhaps the most satisfying job - easy to step back and take pleasure from a good job jobbed.

Who me ?

7,455 posts

239 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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magpie215 said:
This is the big problem, when you total up the free dental care free eye care rent paid and benefit paid out plus whatever else you can get you need to be earning north of 20K to break even....wrong very very wrong IMO
Too true - I was made redundant ( 62 BTW) few months back from a job where basic was around £20k .When I add up all the free things I'm as well off as I was on basic wage -possibly better on pension credit .Would like to go out and earn some cash ,but at my age what chance do I have,and this lot don't give you any incentive .

esselte

14,626 posts

294 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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cazzer said:
[quote=Who me ?]
magpie215 said:
This is the big problem, when you total up the free dental care free eye care rent paid and benefit paid out plus whatever else you can get you need to be earning north of 20K to break even....wrong very very wrong IMO
Too true - I was made redundant ( 62 BTW) few months back from a job where basic was around £20k .When I add up all the free things I'm as well off as I was on basic wage -possibly better on pension credit .Would like to go out and earn some cash ,but at my age what chance do I have,and this lot don't give you any incentive .
How. How do I manage to get 62 quid a week and you manage 20k?
I'd love to know where all these benefits come from.
The Daily Mail?

Who me ?

7,455 posts

239 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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esselte said:
How. How do I manage to get 62 quid a week and you manage 20k?
I'd love to know where all these benefits come from.
The Daily Mail?
Try aged 62 ( thought the words pension credit would give game away) .
FYI -pension credit is a benefit for those aged 60 -65 and unemployed .( IMHO it's a Govt fiddle to reduce the unemployed figures ,but it pays more than dole ,you don't need to jump through hoops and it's probably Govt admitting that in spite of all it's sermonising etc on ageism ,you don't stand a cat in hells chance when you've only got a couple of years to go )

As for benefits ,add up council tax ,rent ,living allowance ,then look at how much this benevolent government decides you are going to contribute ( add that to it and 20k is very close)

cazzer

8,883 posts

275 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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Council Tax? I have to pay it.
Rent? I have a mortgage and have to pay it.
Living allowance? Whats that then?

The only thing I'm entitled to is £62 quid a week. Which they then take the majority of back as council tax.
Why? Cos my wife works and earns 25k a year. So we should be able to afford absolutely everything out of her wage. The fact I was the major breadwinner and have lost 75% of the household income is apparently irrelevent.

Hey ho, I never expected to get any help. I mean I've only paid a few hundred thousand in tax and NI over the years.

I'd prefer a job.

richieboy3008

2,058 posts

210 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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I'd like a job! Been out of work now for 3 months. But there really is no point me applying for low paid jobs (i.e under 1k per month) as the benefits (housing, council, job seekers, child and working tax) all add up to just over 1k per month. I can now see how lazy fuc*ers manage to stay on benefits. I'm not one of those, but I'm not going to put myself in a worse financial situation by taking low paid work.