Asking about salary...
Discussion
Judging from your other posts on here it's obvious that you want as much as you can for doing as little as you can (you can't be blamed for that - we all do) however, the reality of it is you have to come across as wanting the job, show willing and be enthusiastic about the company without going over the top and arse-kissing.
Once they've decided your the man then is the time to discuss salary. If you've applied for the job you will have some idea about the going rate for that role, if you haven't then your applying for the wrong sort of jobs, if you come over as the "one" and your invited back for a second interview there's no harm doing in trying to negotiate the going rate up a bit at that point in time.
Once they've decided your the man then is the time to discuss salary. If you've applied for the job you will have some idea about the going rate for that role, if you haven't then your applying for the wrong sort of jobs, if you come over as the "one" and your invited back for a second interview there's no harm doing in trying to negotiate the going rate up a bit at that point in time.
Exactly.. Start asking about salary too early or coming across like that is your main motivation for wanting the job, and I guarentee you they will find someone else.
Come across as though you are pationate about working for their company and in the particular role and talk about money afterwards. Like I said previously you discuss salary with HR normally, not the people who are most likely interviewing you in the first place.
ETA: I realise you are the same chap asking about the easiest and fastest way to earn 100K in another thread. I think it's time you found a new motivation for a career choice.
Come across as though you are pationate about working for their company and in the particular role and talk about money afterwards. Like I said previously you discuss salary with HR normally, not the people who are most likely interviewing you in the first place.
ETA: I realise you are the same chap asking about the easiest and fastest way to earn 100K in another thread. I think it's time you found a new motivation for a career choice.
Edited by ChrisMCoupe on Monday 1st February 10:53
I would have thought any employer that is living in the real world will realise that the huge majority of people work to earn money, not because of a fervent desire to work for them. I suppose it depends on how the question is phrased!
Nothing wrong with asking what the salary range is early on, and then negotiate further in to the deal. Going through the hoops for a job you may not be willing to do for the expected salary is a waste of time for all parties. Of course, the trick is to want them to employ you , but many companies have very tightly defined salary scales and there is not much room for negotiation at all.
Nothing wrong with asking what the salary range is early on, and then negotiate further in to the deal. Going through the hoops for a job you may not be willing to do for the expected salary is a waste of time for all parties. Of course, the trick is to want them to employ you , but many companies have very tightly defined salary scales and there is not much room for negotiation at all.
A couple of years ago I applied for a job as a wine advisor for a large Supermarket chain, I get through two interviews and am called back a third time and offered the job. I have the equivalent of an A level in wine and many years experience in the wine trade. I was also, at that time, manager of a wine shop.
The salary on offer was minimum wage, I was absolutely furious with them. On their application form it asked what my current salary was ( which was considerably more than what they were offering). They had wasted my time (equivalent of 2 full days in interviews), 100 odd miles of petrol travelling to their site 3 times - for a position that they should have described better and seen I was way over-qualified for.
As I said to them at the time - Why would I take such a large drop in salary especially when I'm having to drive a further 10 miles and there's no parking available on site. They looked a bit stunned at my response, and after I'd returned home, rang and offered a slightly higher hourly rate.
From that experience, if already in employment and they're aware of your present salary - I would ask if the overall package is similar to what I'm already receiving.
The salary on offer was minimum wage, I was absolutely furious with them. On their application form it asked what my current salary was ( which was considerably more than what they were offering). They had wasted my time (equivalent of 2 full days in interviews), 100 odd miles of petrol travelling to their site 3 times - for a position that they should have described better and seen I was way over-qualified for.
As I said to them at the time - Why would I take such a large drop in salary especially when I'm having to drive a further 10 miles and there's no parking available on site. They looked a bit stunned at my response, and after I'd returned home, rang and offered a slightly higher hourly rate.
From that experience, if already in employment and they're aware of your present salary - I would ask if the overall package is similar to what I'm already receiving.
davidspooner said:
I've been asking for the range upfront - this is only polite, as if they are paying less to get someone more junior interviews would be a waste of your time and theirs.
Yes.We always mention the salary range in job adverts when recruiting, even if it does mean we get lots of wannabe's applying, they get sifted out anyway. When we've got the people we want in for interview I always ask what salary they're seeking and why they think they deserve it, gives me a peek into how they're thinking and let's me know if they've read all of the ad, you'd be surprised (or would you!?) how many don't even read the ad properly!
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