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AtomicRex

Original Poster:

862 posts

256 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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I am looking for a technician to head up the workshop.

I need someone who isn't wet behind the ears, someone that is a self starter, and doesn't just rush in and bolt the first thing that comes to either mind or hand on a car!

Based on the outskirts of Castle Combe and looking to compete in a number of series across the UK.
You will need to have the following:
Good welding skills (MIG and TIG)
Engine, gearbox and differential rebuild and service.
Turbo knowledge
Looms
ECU and mapping
Composites

If you think you can help then email me with a salary expectation and CV, or call on 0870 903 6666. Looking for an urgent start.

AtomicRex

Original Poster:

862 posts

256 months

Thursday 13th May 2010
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And there was me thinking there was a lack of jobs out there!

I have 5 race cars to build...so need someone ASAP.

I do however need someone that has a little more experience than fresh out of University or College.

Good rate of Pay!

AtomicRex

Original Poster:

862 posts

256 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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This job is still available.

Salary range 18-24k depending on experience.

I'm so surprised that no one has taken the role.

singlecoil

35,825 posts

275 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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Is that about average pay for that level of experience? Reason I ask is that I might be looking to employ someone soon (different part of the country, though) and it seems like good value, I was thinking of £10 ph just for the welding and fabricating.

JontyR

1,924 posts

196 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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From my research and experience
Apprentice approx 12k per year
2nd technician approx 18k per year
1st technician approx 24k per year
This is obviously down to experience and whether travel is involved.


depends on the number of hours...but on average £10 per hour is about £19.5k per annum

Marf

22,907 posts

270 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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I have to say 24k does seem on the low side to me for someone with all of those skills. Hell just someone good at mapping could easily earn themselves £25/hr.

singlecoil

35,825 posts

275 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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JontyR said:
depends on the number of hours...but on average £10 per hour is about £19.5k per annum
I was reckoning a 40 hour week, so £20,800 pa

RW774

1,042 posts

252 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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Rooster man, there are no skilled people, only failures, or MOT testers as their better known. All the good guys are well looked after because they have the magic factor, passion .
The vast majority of available pre-maddonas couldn`t make it as organ donors. Talk about `care in the comunity`.........
I have been aprenticed to WW2 Tank mechanics,aircraft fitters,aero engine builders and Bentley specialists. each one left his mark on me.I don`t think we will ever se the like of that quality again.Gone are the days wiv yer mates pulling engines out at the weekend,building motorbikes and waking up the neighbours at some un earthly hour with the latest transplant.Rather earn big bucks mapping?? what a piece of piss that is. The skill is in getting it right , illiminating det, drilling jets and profiling needles. setting up injection systems is childs play by comparision

Ben Hughes

1,937 posts

208 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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RW774 said:
.Rather earn big bucks mapping?? what a piece of piss that is. The skill is in getting it right , illiminating det, drilling jets and profiling needles. setting up injection systems is childs play by comparision
You see, that's the problem - there is no easy way to practice any of the above. I'll stand up and admit that when I bought my MGB GT back in October I was a 17 year old lad with no practical mechanical knowledge, no driving licence. I could tell you exactly how every part in that car worked, but I couldn't take it apart and put it back together for the life of me. Over the past 8 months - with no outside help aside from forums and a Haynes manual - have taught myself to start from the very beginning; oil changes, basic maintenance etc. Next came the servicing of the distributor and timing system, getting confused and giving a mechanic some cash to set the timing for me. Then came the fiddling around with wiring looms to fix an overdrive fault - it was, to me, a great achievement when I took it for a test run and the overdrive kicked in for the first time since I'd owned it.

However, I'm one of a very few people I know who will even attempt to work on their cars. For example, paying a 'man' to change a light bulb, needing help from the public at the roadside when changing a tyre etc. It's all due to the fact that if you do something wrong, the ECU will pack up, or you'll void your warranty.

I'd love to get a job in a proper garage (read: not Kwik Fit) at weekends and over summer so I can learn from old-school mechanics how to work on cars in a mechanical fashion - cylinder heads, camshafts, carburettors and the like. The fact of the matter is that nobody round here will take me on as I've had no experience. Not even as a lowly-paid apprentice. I too can see proper mechanical nous soon dying out for good.

RW774

1,042 posts

252 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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Hi Ben, I wish you lived round here man, you would have a job tommorrow. Most of the people I have seen think the world owe them a favour, including the Uni graduates. `I wouldn`t get out of bed for that` attitude stinks.

autopium

13 posts

196 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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AtomicRex said:
I am looking for a technician to head up the workshop.

You will need to have the following:
Good welding skills (MIG and TIG)
Engine, gearbox and differential rebuild and service.
Turbo knowledge
Looms
ECU and mapping
Composites
£18-24k? You must be joking. I know people are desperate for work but even a cr@p mechanic can earn that at a local garage, work 40hrs and with zero responsibility. All my opinion of course.

Edited by autopium on Thursday 3rd June 07:26


Edited by autopium on Thursday 3rd June 07:27

Ben Hughes

1,937 posts

208 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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RW774 said:
Hi Ben, I wish you lived round here man, you would have a job tommorrow. Most of the people I have seen think the world owe them a favour, including the Uni graduates. `I wouldn`t get out of bed for that` attitude stinks.
I've just had a look through your website...some of those cars! cloud9
Tell you what, find me somewhere to live in Suffolk and I'll be there in a flash laugh

singlecoil

35,825 posts

275 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Ben Hughes said:
RW774 said:
Hi Ben, I wish you lived round here man, you would have a job tommorrow. Most of the people I have seen think the world owe them a favour, including the Uni graduates. `I wouldn`t get out of bed for that` attitude stinks.
I've just had a look through your website...some of those cars! cloud9
Tell you what, find me somewhere to live in Suffolk and I'll be there in a flash laugh
I admit to knowing nothing of your personal circumstances, but will say that if I was a young gentleman with an interest in that type of car, then I would be on RW774's doorstep tomorrow morning, with a view to finding digs in the area (should be easy enough) were the interview to go well.

AtomicRex

Original Poster:

862 posts

256 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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autopium said:
AtomicRex said:
I am looking for a technician to head up the workshop.

You will need to have the following:
Good welding skills (MIG and TIG)
Engine, gearbox and differential rebuild and service.
Turbo knowledge
Looms
ECU and mapping
Composites
£18-24k? You must be joking. I know people are desperate for work but even a cr@p mechanic can earn that at a local garage, work 40hrs and with zero responsibility. All my opinion of course.
I dont think it is that low! And no round here you wont find a basic mechanic on that sort of wage. Most technicians I have spoken to are looking for £100 per day. That roughly works out at £24k per year.

If the right person came along then I would look to maybe up the salary....but I also have to be realistic on what a new company can afford.

Ben Hughes

1,937 posts

208 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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singlecoil said:
Ben Hughes said:
RW774 said:
Hi Ben, I wish you lived round here man, you would have a job tommorrow. Most of the people I have seen think the world owe them a favour, including the Uni graduates. `I wouldn`t get out of bed for that` attitude stinks.
I've just had a look through your website...some of those cars! cloud9
Tell you what, find me somewhere to live in Suffolk and I'll be there in a flash laugh
I admit to knowing nothing of your personal circumstances, but will say that if I was a young gentleman with an interest in that type of car, then I would be on RW774's doorstep tomorrow morning, with a view to finding digs in the area (should be easy enough) were the interview to go well.
Oh tell me about it! Unfortunately, I'm half way through my A-levels at present, and my parents are insistant that I get a degree (already got a place at uni) frown
Let me know if you're still looking in three years time - I'll be there!

And sorry for the thread hijack, AtomicRex.

AtomicRex

Original Poster:

862 posts

256 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Ben Hughes said:
singlecoil said:
Ben Hughes said:
RW774 said:
Hi Ben, I wish you lived round here man, you would have a job tommorrow. Most of the people I have seen think the world owe them a favour, including the Uni graduates. `I wouldn`t get out of bed for that` attitude stinks.
I've just had a look through your website...some of those cars! cloud9
Tell you what, find me somewhere to live in Suffolk and I'll be there in a flash laugh
I admit to knowing nothing of your personal circumstances, but will say that if I was a young gentleman with an interest in that type of car, then I would be on RW774's doorstep tomorrow morning, with a view to finding digs in the area (should be easy enough) were the interview to go well.
Oh tell me about it! Unfortunately, I'm half way through my A-levels at present, and my parents are insistant that I get a degree (already got a place at uni) frown
Let me know if you're still looking in three years time - I'll be there!

And sorry for the thread hijack, AtomicRex.
Don't worry Ben,

lol

Good luck with getting a place in motorsport. If you put the enthusiasm in, which it sounds you have an abundance of, you will get what you need. Question everything you are told, not in a disrespectful way...but just make sure it makes sense! And you will gain the experience you need

JB!

5,255 posts

209 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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[thread hijack]

anyone got any motorsports jobs going in mk/northants area?

just finishing my NVQ3 in railway engineering, have a few other engineering qualifications (PEO lv2), some experience with milling/lathe work and played a bit with cad/cam at school, i also have Institute of Leadership and Management lv2, and am 1 essay off lv3.

did some time at Monster Sport Europe and M.I.M.S. as an apprentice and miss working on race cars.

anything out there? i dont mind working evenings unpaid first to get a feel for a prospective employer & vice/versa.

[/thread hijack]

good luck OP!

Ben Hughes

1,937 posts

208 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Regretting declining Norwich uni now too. Damn. laugh

autopium

13 posts

196 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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AtomicRex said:
autopium said:
AtomicRex said:
I am looking for a technician to head up the workshop.

You will need to have the following:
Good welding skills (MIG and TIG)
Engine, gearbox and differential rebuild and service.
Turbo knowledge
Looms
ECU and mapping
Composites
£18-24k? You must be joking. I know people are desperate for work but even a cr@p mechanic can earn that at a local garage, work 40hrs and with zero responsibility. All my opinion of course.
I dont think it is that low! And no round here you wont find a basic mechanic on that sort of wage. Most technicians I have spoken to are looking for £100 per day. That roughly works out at £24k per year.

If the right person came along then I would look to maybe up the salary....but I also have to be realistic on what a new company can afford.
I agree you can't just fork out for a top level tech (who, in my experience, will be so far up his own ar5e won't listen to a word of advice you give him) but you are asking for huge a range of skills - ie someone who has years of very varied experience (certainly not most technicians) & is very good at their job - a very small field I'm afraid.

RetroCosworth

7,211 posts

233 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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singlecoil said:
Ben Hughes said:
RW774 said:
Hi Ben, I wish you lived round here man, you would have a job tommorrow. Most of the people I have seen think the world owe them a favour, including the Uni graduates. `I wouldn`t get out of bed for that` attitude stinks.
I've just had a look through your website...some of those cars! cloud9
Tell you what, find me somewhere to live in Suffolk and I'll be there in a flash laugh
I admit to knowing nothing of your personal circumstances, but will say that if I was a young gentleman with an interest in that type of car, then I would be on RW774's doorstep tomorrow morning, with a view to finding digs in the area (should be easy enough) were the interview to go well.
I would be up for that, but I was wondering if he could offer some work experience as I would much love to work in that industry.

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Edited by RetroCosworth on Thursday 3rd June 22:43