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Gene Genie

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50 posts

204 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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E55 Max

1,210 posts

199 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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You are still employed by them, so if you are able to take calls about your work I don't see the problem?

Kermit power

29,622 posts

240 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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I think it depends....

If what they're asking you to do is hindering your leg's recuperation, then I think your grievance is justified.

If, on the other hand, what they're asking you to do is merely hindering your ability to watch daytime TV and surf PH whilst your leg recuperates then.....








wait for it.......







I don't think you've got a leg to stand on!

rofl

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Kermit power

29,622 posts

240 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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On a more serious note, aren't the government supposed to be changing to sick note system to one where the note specifies exactly what you can't do, rather than just giving you a blanket sign-off?

This would seem like an ideal case to demonstrate the validity of the suggestion.

louiebaby

10,922 posts

218 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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Very much depending on what you do, how far from home, and how much pain you're in and the kind of drowsiness you're getting from the pain killers, I don't think it's unreasonable for them to equip you to work from home, or to put on transport to get you to work.

If I broke my leg cycling through London, I'd expect a few days to get over it and sleep off the drowsiness, then a taxi paid for by work to get me too and from. (I'm a desk jocky.)

When I had a knee op and worked as a Pharmacist I was off for 4 weeks, because the job entailed being stood up all day.

In my mind it's a call that has to be made on each case, but if I was an employer, I would expect my employees to work if possible.

Kermit power

29,622 posts

240 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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Gene Genie said:
the possible problem is that i'm officially signed off.in the past when i've been signed off and tried to start work earier than planned i've been shooed out of the building and told to go home until my sick note is up or to get a revised one so that i can go back.so how is it ok to work from home when i'm not allowed in the building? how can i be signed off sick yet be expected to work if that makes sense?

gene
I think it's an arse-covering thing. If you're signed off and you then exacerbate your injuries in the building, then they won't be covered by their insurance and the like.

Whether that applies to you doing stuff from home or not, I don't know.

c8bof

368 posts

192 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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The new style fit notes have been out for a while. What did yours say? Not fit for work or may be fit for work with reasonable adjustments?

Why don't you just let them know if you don't feel up to answering calls? Or don't answer the phone?

bogie

17,006 posts

299 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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when was on long term sick after an accident, my employers were not allowed to ring me and chat about work..this was the HR dept advice to my team

you are either able to work, or not, was the deal ....not partially able to

I was allowed the odd call to say "how are you" but they were not allowed to be getting me involved in work related stuff

JK55

172 posts

196 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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I suggest that you are in quite a strong position. From your post it suggests that you are the only person who knows how to do certain things or deal with certain matters. Don't let your injury be the excuse for them to have to train someone to your level. If someone else can fill in for you that same person could replace you.

Think about it.

If you wanted to raise a greivance you can.

I would try and just be as helpful as possible. You are still being paid while you are signed off sick. Regular calls from people at work might enable you to keep in the loop as it were.


NoNeed

15,137 posts

227 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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You have a legal obligation to co-operate with your employers medical enquiries. And if you look at it from thier side for minute, they have to make other arrangements to cover absence, to do this properly they need to be as well informed as possible.
You have nothing to hide with a broken leg, so just play the game.

ymwoods

2,194 posts

204 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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JK55 said:
I suggest that you are in quite a strong position. From your post it suggests that you are the only person who knows how to do certain things or deal with certain matters. Don't let your injury be the excuse for them to have to train someone to your level. If someone else can fill in for you that same person could replace you.

Think about it.

If you wanted to raise a greivance you can.

I would try and just be as helpful as possible. You are still being paid while you are signed off sick. Regular calls from people at work might enable you to keep in the loop as it were.
This. If they get the impression that your not going to help them with things only you can do then more the reason for them to look at spreading your skills accross other workers thus reducing your need.

Alex

9,978 posts

311 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Kermit power said:
I think it depends....

If what they're asking you to do is hindering your leg's recuperation, then I think your grievance is justified.

If, on the other hand, what they're asking you to do is merely hindering your ability to watch daytime TV and surf PH whilst your leg recuperates then.....








wait for it.......







I don't think you've got a leg to stand on!

rofl

paperbag
Brilliant.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

259 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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musclecarmad said:
just help them why are you whining?

you are off work so the odd phonecall is easy to do, just put jeremy kyle on mute for a minute or two.

you can do all the legal rubbish but in the end it will pi55 off your employer and you will be worse off for it.

just be helpful like in the old days
Couldn't agree more.
There is only one person taking the piss and it's you op.
Typical lazy attitude of "Ha, I have a doctors not. Regardless of anything I will not go in to work. THat's a lovely 8 week holiday for me"
I sincerely hope they decide not to pay you sick pay.

Soovy

35,829 posts

298 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Gene Genie said:
i fell off my bike and broke my leg a week ago (insert slap head smilie here) and now i'm off work.doctors reckon 6-8 weeks before i can return and longer before i can drive.
question is ,my employer has been on the phone and email asking me questions "how do i do this" and "what about this" type questions.surely this isnt allowed if the doctor has signed me off work?
i've tried to be helpful but i suspect this is a ploy to get me back sooner than i want to and i don't want anyone to fall foul of employment law as our HR dept is a bit hot on such things.
Jesus Tittyfking Christ

Take the calls, or expect to be replaced, and rightly so.





Edited by Soovy on Friday 1st October 12:52

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

259 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Gene Genie said:
This is not my attitude,i don't know where you got that idea from but you are way WAY far of the mark,if i could go back i would but just exactly how to i drive around the country visiting clients stoned out of my head on painkillers and with a broken leg,its not as if i drive an automatic .All i am trying to avoid is a conflict of interest, as i said in my original post my HR dept is hot on this sort of thing, i wasnt sure of the legal aspects of the issue and was asking for advice not a character assasination from a complete stranger.
Oh and BTW ,FYI yes i will get paid,SSP at @£12(?) a day,no bonus,no commision no overtime so don't get the idea that i'm on a cushy number staying at home,believe you and me i NEED to get back to work, i cannot afford to be off for two months,SSP won't even cover the bills.
Uncharacteristically I take it back then. Sorry- I misread your motives.

Debaser

8,172 posts

288 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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Gene Genie said:
our HR dept is a bit hot on such things.
Gene Genie said:
my HR dept is hot on this sort of thing
Why don't you ask your HR department?