How to make money when you're useless?
How to make money when you're useless?
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AJS-

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15,366 posts

263 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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Ok, I wouldn't actually say I'm useless, I'm a Business Development sales guy and can make a reasonable living doing that. I currently have a business idea that I want to make real next year, but would like a bit more money in the bank first.

My current job is going nowhere, and not paying well either, so I would love to jack it in and go and do a 3-6 month contract somewhere that I can make good money without spending tons. Probably the exact opposite of Bangkok, where I am at the moment.

The trouble is (the useless part) I don't have any of those skills that would enable me to go and work on an oil rig or similar, nor have I ever been in the army so I can't go and do protection jobs in Iraq (if that sort of thing is even still going on?).

Sales jobs are ok, but they usually take 6 months to get up to speed and start making good money. So, anyone have any ideas where someone without such skills can make a few quid fairly quickly?

Pete102

2,377 posts

213 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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Difficult one, to be honest I would be looking at maximising my earnings in the role I currently perform, are there any other better paying companies you can apply for? Is there the option to go contract within your current role? Although Im not sure how that would work within Bangkok.

Failing that..take the plunge and MAKE it work, at least the incentive will be there....

Or you could sell services as a ladyboy......sorry someone's going to suggest it

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

253 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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AJS-

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15,366 posts

263 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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Making the most of my current role and cutting down what I spend is probably the best option, and yes, a good incentive to make it work. I don't think there's much of a market for overweight, hairy ladyboys, even in Bangkok, but you never know.

AJS-

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15,366 posts

263 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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CommanderJameson said:
Gambling is actually illegal here, and the site is blocked. Haha. Even if I did know who was going to win a game of football or something.

I wouldn't have put much on Vettel winning the championship this year either.

jomcvelia

314 posts

193 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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How about dabbling on the stocks and shares. I have been doing it and making more money than my present job. You do need a large slice of money in the first place but rewards can be good....mind you so can be the losses....

Speed addicted

6,316 posts

254 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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AJS- said:
The trouble is (the useless part) I don't have any of those skills that would enable me to go and work on an oil rig or similar
You'd fit in fine here then!
Offshore at the moment with a bunch of s that need written instructions to climb a ladder. If you're a noisy ignorant pillock you'll be sorted!

(sorry, been waiting for flights off since thursday and getting a bit fed up after 24 days)

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

288 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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You want decent money without any marketable skills? Only one option I'm afraid, swallow your pride and become a member of parliament.

schmalex

13,616 posts

233 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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What industry are you selling in, chap?

Sales can be pretty lucrative, but you have to make sure you get into higher end to move away from trawling round the countryside with a bootful of demo products (not saying that's what you do).

If you go for a new job, make sure you can demonstrate your personal success. The amount of numpties I interview who claim they is done this, that & the other on their CV, but actually, after a bit of questioning, turn out to have just hung onto others shirt tails is staggering

hewlett

2,186 posts

248 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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We started a PH entrepreneurs club for those of us who want more out of life, financially. People turn up with an idea but not the skills, no idea but lots of skills, neither but amazing contacts and people help each other out. What's been fascinating now it's been running for 20 months or so is that the biggest issue, by a long way, is people actually commiting to turn up, carry out the actions they say they'll do. Generally, people with bad ideas have them quashed, and if they have a good idea they walk away with no reason not to get it going, we'll generally know someone who might be able to find funding, help out with this and that, create a website, right some copy, get some publicity etc. etc. It's been amazing but now when someone turns up I no longer am concerned about what, whether they have an idea they want to make reality, just whether or not they really want the results and are interested in putting in the effort:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

253 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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AJS- said:
CommanderJameson said:
Gambling is actually illegal here, and the site is blocked.
Blimey. Didn't know that.

PH - educating eejits matters.

AJS-

Original Poster:

15,366 posts

263 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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Speed addicted said:
AJS- said:
The trouble is (the useless part) I don't have any of those skills that would enable me to go and work on an oil rig or similar
You'd fit in fine here then!
Offshore at the moment with a bunch of s that need written instructions to climb a ladder. If you're a noisy ignorant pillock you'll be sorted!

(sorry, been waiting for flights off since thursday and getting a bit fed up after 24 days)


Wooohoo! Where do I apply?

Actually taht sounds more interesting. Although I said I'm useless in the sense of marketable skills, I like to think I'm fairly practical minded. I can climb a ladder, fix a car, nail bits of wood together and stuff. Without written instructions usually.

schmalex said:
What industry are you selling in, chap?

Sales can be pretty lucrative, but you have to make sure you get into higher end to move away from trawling round the countryside with a bootful of demo products (not saying that's what you do).

If you go for a new job, make sure you can demonstrate your personal success. The amount of numpties I interview who claim they is done this, that & the other on their CV, but actually, after a bit of questioning, turn out to have just hung onto others shirt tails is staggering
Most of my experience is in recruitment. No problem with getting a reasonable paying job really. The thing is that sales jobs really need a long term commitment in my experience. I'm really looking for a quick boost that will put a few grand in my pocket over 3-6 months.


hewlett
The entrepreneurs club looks like a great idea. I'd be there like a shot if I lived anywhere close.

Interesting comments. I'm definitely ready to put the effort in and will probably end up starting on a shoe string and doing a bit of part time English teaching or something to keep a roof over my head for a few months until the money starts coming in.

CommanderJameson
Yes, completely illegal even though they all love it. They pour over the border to Laos and Cambodia for a flutter. At home they play cards illegally for thousands of pounds, and lose houses, cars and businesses in the process.

The only time it is tolerated is at funerals, which means they tend to go on for about a week. Strange country!

randomwalk

534 posts

191 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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go and drive mining trucks in west australia, earn over $100K per annum doing that.

Pete102

2,377 posts

213 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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Speed addicted said:
AJS- said:
The trouble is (the useless part) I don't have any of those skills that would enable me to go and work on an oil rig or similar
You'd fit in fine here
Offshore at the moment with a bunch of s that need written instructions to climb a ladder. If you're a noisy ignorant
pillock you'll be sorted!

(sorry, been waiting for flights off since thursday and getting a bit fed up after 24 days)
Hah I used to write those instructions, now project manage

Wacky Racer

41,149 posts

274 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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AJS- said:
Actually taht sounds more interesting. Although I said I'm useless in the sense of marketable skills, I like to think I'm fairly practical minded. I can climb a ladder, nail bits of wood together and stuff. Without written instructions usually.
http://www.georgewimpey.co.uk/

stephen300o

15,464 posts

255 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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Enter Xfactor?

WorAl

10,877 posts

215 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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[obvious PH answer]Is prostitution allowed over there?[/obvious PH answer]

Sebo

2,179 posts

253 months

Sunday 19th December 2010
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randomwalk said:
go and drive mining trucks in west australia, earn over $100K per annum doing that.
Linky?

AJS-

Original Poster:

15,366 posts

263 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Mining trucks in WA sounds interesting. Any links or contacts I could chase up? A google search didn't turn much up.

Prostitution is available easily in Bangkok, so is beer - that's more like the problem than the solution!


oilydan

2,030 posts

298 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Come to Dubai. I'm putting a crew together.