Saying I'm still working when I'm not in a new job offer
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Hi,
I'm starting a new role and I mentioned I am still working at x company, even though I had left/got p45. I said I'm still working because my contract was terminated after 6 months (probation) - short period of time.
So now I am worried that the employer of my new role may contact my last employer for a reference ... and you see where things are going. How common is that? Do they need my permission to do so? This company is small and informal, and they've asked me for two references which I will be providing.
Thanks
I'm starting a new role and I mentioned I am still working at x company, even though I had left/got p45. I said I'm still working because my contract was terminated after 6 months (probation) - short period of time.
So now I am worried that the employer of my new role may contact my last employer for a reference ... and you see where things are going. How common is that? Do they need my permission to do so? This company is small and informal, and they've asked me for two references which I will be providing.
Thanks
They'll be able to see when you left on your P45 anyway. And it's very common for a company to ask for a reference from your previous employer. Usually the previous employer will at least confirm your employment dates.
For this reason you should never, ever, lie about employment dates on your CV. Not only could it cost you your job, if the new employer is particularly law abiding you could end up in court on a fraud charge.
For this reason you should never, ever, lie about employment dates on your CV. Not only could it cost you your job, if the new employer is particularly law abiding you could end up in court on a fraud charge.
It was a stupid thing to do but kinda understandable.
Was it a long period of time between the 2 jobs?.
It depends where you are going to work, I know my current employer wouldn't have noticed a different date on my p45 as it's 2 different departments (hr and payroll), and my new employer didn't take any references (despite me offering them).
Was it a long period of time between the 2 jobs?.
It depends where you are going to work, I know my current employer wouldn't have noticed a different date on my p45 as it's 2 different departments (hr and payroll), and my new employer didn't take any references (despite me offering them).
I left the previous place before the interview for this job.
The gap has been just less than 3 months.
It was/is a stupid move by me, and, leason learnt. However, if worst comes to worst, all I can say is that I left at x date but was still on the payroll afterwards to be payed what I was owed and sort out my pension/healthcare (Which was exactly the case), and that after leaving, I did some informal freelancing/helping x for money.
The gap has been just less than 3 months.
It was/is a stupid move by me, and, leason learnt. However, if worst comes to worst, all I can say is that I left at x date but was still on the payroll afterwards to be payed what I was owed and sort out my pension/healthcare (Which was exactly the case), and that after leaving, I did some informal freelancing/helping x for money.
Eric, your more up to date on current practice in the UK, do you really think the employer would ask the new employer for a copy of the P45? I've run payroll for severel UK PLC's and would never think to go back to the old employer, wouldn't have time or interest, we would just say somthing like 'no P45 by the 22nd of the month and your on emergency, your fault'.
Now I'm going back a few years, since I worked in the UK, but have emplyers realy become so nanny they would go to the old employer?
Now I'm going back a few years, since I worked in the UK, but have emplyers realy become so nanny they would go to the old employer?
Eric Mc said:
worsy said:
Don't give them P45, complete a P46 instead. You may still be had over the reference though.
His new employer will be expecting a P45 (considering he has just left work - according to his story). On what grounds would he explain the lack of a P45?Admittedly, both came at the same time - I was contracting, then went perm in the same company, to be made redundant 2 months later! By then, my notice period with contracting company came to an end to which I recieved 2 P45's, and a confused office manager at the next job...
Depends if it was recorded that you gave employment dates and how big the company is, if they have differing HR & Payroll depts as mentioned it will probably not register from the P45, and if they are very big the previous employment reference msy not be checked just filed, however that is more by luck than by practice, depends on how busy the HR assistant is on that day.
Also if you said in an interview that you worked for X from a to b then that can be lost in the whole scheme of things, however if you recorded the information on an application or CV that they have a record off then that's a worse situation to be in.
Also if you said in an interview that you worked for X from a to b then that can be lost in the whole scheme of things, however if you recorded the information on an application or CV that they have a record off then that's a worse situation to be in.
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