legal rights after the sack !
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quick question.
Son was fired today.
one verbal warning for two days off. (provided a sick note from gp for them)
written warning for two days late.
today told he is dismissed as he failed to improve his production numbers since his review last week.
He works making boxes in a box making factory. Last week at his review a man counted how many boxes he cut on a machine over one hour and told him he had to improve the figure. obviously he didnt.
He said he is shocked as he has worked really hard and all his colleagues were shocked too.
he doesnt remember signing a contract although he has completed his 3 month probabtion and is on month four. needs to be noted that he made a similair amount of boxes as his work mates.
we are appealing to the manager of the factory.
can we go to the tribunal or do you have to be employed for 12 months for that?
Sad thing is he has aspergers and didnt disclose this to his employer. He didnt want them to know and to be fair i am very proud of him . He enjoyed the job and has got up every day at 6.30am to be in work for 8am.
only missed one day ill except for his op and two days after.
late twice. in 4 months.
any suggestions?
or do we just move on and look for another job?
Son was fired today.
one verbal warning for two days off. (provided a sick note from gp for them)
written warning for two days late.
today told he is dismissed as he failed to improve his production numbers since his review last week.
He works making boxes in a box making factory. Last week at his review a man counted how many boxes he cut on a machine over one hour and told him he had to improve the figure. obviously he didnt.
He said he is shocked as he has worked really hard and all his colleagues were shocked too.
he doesnt remember signing a contract although he has completed his 3 month probabtion and is on month four. needs to be noted that he made a similair amount of boxes as his work mates.
we are appealing to the manager of the factory.
can we go to the tribunal or do you have to be employed for 12 months for that?
Sad thing is he has aspergers and didnt disclose this to his employer. He didnt want them to know and to be fair i am very proud of him . He enjoyed the job and has got up every day at 6.30am to be in work for 8am.
only missed one day ill except for his op and two days after.
late twice. in 4 months.
any suggestions?
or do we just move on and look for another job?
Continue to be proud of him, as you will no doubt do anyway. Some employers will simply take issue with someone, as they probably did with regards to those days off and turning up late. It's entirely possible that they held it against him, unfortunate, but it happens.
It's unfortunate, but just move on; soon enough he will have another job, will be enjoying it and this will all be in the past. Just encourage him and make sure that this doesn't dent his confidence.
It's unfortunate, but just move on; soon enough he will have another job, will be enjoying it and this will all be in the past. Just encourage him and make sure that this doesn't dent his confidence.
I shouldn't laugh, but...rich1231 said:
Eric Mc said:
It was a box making factory.
Look on the sacking as a promotion.
Why look down upon people making boxes Eric? How many boxes did you come into contact with today? Do you think the magic accounting stationiary fairy made them appear magically?Look on the sacking as a promotion.
However, I would not suggest that one makes a career out of making boxes (unless you are the owner of the box company of course).
My experience with people who have aspergers is that routine mind numbing reptitive tasks would drive them mad so he is probably better off out of there. There is also a chance that the workforce around him may not have handled him very sympathetically.
I obviously don't know how affected your son is by his aspergers, however, did you know it is often looked upon as a gift rather that a disability?
Many famous people have it...>>>> http://www.asperger-syndrome.me.uk/people.htm
Tell the box making people to go f
k themselves, find out what his passion is, and encourage that with patience.
Many famous people have it...>>>> http://www.asperger-syndrome.me.uk/people.htm
Tell the box making people to go f
k themselves, find out what his passion is, and encourage that with patience.Eric Mc said:
My experience with people who have aspergers is that routine mind numbing reptitive tasks would drive them mad so he is probably better off out of there.
My experience of people with aspergers is that they tend to need routine and it pays an important part in their life. Breaking the routine can be quite traumatic for them...Eric Mc said:
I don't look down on people making boxes at all. Someone has to make them.
However, I would not suggest that one makes a career out of making boxes (unless you are the owner of the box company of course).
My experience with people who have aspergers is that routine mind numbing reptitive tasks would drive them mad so he is probably better off out of there. There is also a chance that the workforce around him may not have handled him very sympathetically.
No, that wasnt what you meant. Do you need navigational charts for that backtrack?However, I would not suggest that one makes a career out of making boxes (unless you are the owner of the box company of course).
My experience with people who have aspergers is that routine mind numbing reptitive tasks would drive them mad so he is probably better off out of there. There is also a chance that the workforce around him may not have handled him very sympathetically.
rich1231 said:
Eric Mc said:
I don't look down on people making boxes at all. Someone has to make them.
However, I would not suggest that one makes a career out of making boxes (unless you are the owner of the box company of course).
My experience with people who have aspergers is that routine mind numbing reptitive tasks would drive them mad so he is probably better off out of there. There is also a chance that the workforce around him may not have handled him very sympathetically.
No, that wasnt what you meant. Do you need navigational charts for that backtrack?However, I would not suggest that one makes a career out of making boxes (unless you are the owner of the box company of course).
My experience with people who have aspergers is that routine mind numbing reptitive tasks would drive them mad so he is probably better off out of there. There is also a chance that the workforce around him may not have handled him very sympathetically.
.What I was TRYING to imply is that many people with Asbergers are quite bright and performing very simple repetitive tasks imposed by others may not be what they really want to do.
As someone has already mentioned, routine can be important but from what I've learned about the condition, for those with Asbergers who are intelligent, they often prefer to create their own routines rather than perform simple routines imposed on them.
Therer was a very good interview with two chaps who had Asbergers on Radio 4 a couple of weeks ago and this was the type of thing that they mentioned.
The nub of my comment was that he was better off out of there.
rich1231 said:
Why look down upon people making boxes Eric? How many boxes did you come into contact with today? Do you think the magic accounting stationiary fairy made them appear magically?
They make coffins as well. 
to be fair it was his first job since school. something to put him on.
Slyjoe said:
I obviously don't know how affected your son is by his aspergers, however, did you know it is often looked upon as a gift rather that a disability?
Many famous people have it...>>>> http://www.asperger-syndrome.me.uk/people.htm
Tell the box making people to go fk themselves, find out what his passion is, and encourage that with patience.
I know they are highly intelligent. Many famous people have it...>>>> http://www.asperger-syndrome.me.uk/people.htm
Tell the box making people to go f
k themselves, find out what his passion is, and encourage that with patience.He will bounce back from this, he is just very angry right now.
jessica said:
Slyjoe said:
I obviously don't know how affected your son is by his aspergers, however, did you know it is often looked upon as a gift rather that a disability?
Many famous people have it...>>>> http://www.asperger-syndrome.me.uk/people.htm
Tell the box making people to go fk themselves, find out what his passion is, and encourage that with patience.
I know they are highly intelligent. Many famous people have it...>>>> http://www.asperger-syndrome.me.uk/people.htm
Tell the box making people to go f
k themselves, find out what his passion is, and encourage that with patience.He will bounce back from this, he is just very angry right now.
and no tha factory wasnt in Alsager incidently.
Peole with asergers are often gifted and end up making their own jobs for them in life.
My other son went to a school for aspies and dyslexics ( he has both) and nearly everyone of his schoolmates parents had one or both of these and many of their parents had their own business's and many of them were multi millionaires. Fingers crossed.
Edited by jessica on Thursday 21st April 08:47
Performing mind numbing repetive tasks is probably the last thing he wants to do - unless he's a latent Einstein and uses his spare brain capacity to come up with a new Theory of Relativity
And I'm not joking. Some extremely bright people have carried out dull, non-brain occupying jobs whilst they used their spare mental capacity to think deeply about more escoteric matters.
And, as you mentioned, smart Asberger sufferers are often much better at ploughing their own furrow in the workplace.
And I'm not joking. Some extremely bright people have carried out dull, non-brain occupying jobs whilst they used their spare mental capacity to think deeply about more escoteric matters.
And, as you mentioned, smart Asberger sufferers are often much better at ploughing their own furrow in the workplace.
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