Should I get an e60 M5?.....
Should I get an e60 M5?.....
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turboman786

Original Poster:

1,131 posts

211 months

Saturday 14th May 2011
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To get or not to get...that is the question....

I'v just old my 997 C2, which to be honest was a bit of a disappointment...I didn't really like the car and am now returning to the BMW fold.....

I am toying wit what to get next......must have 4 doors, be fast, look good and be easy to live with (ie not need to be in the garage regularly needing constant repairs etc)

The contenders at the moment are:

335d
535d
M5

NowI know these cars are all different, and MPG is not a huge concern as I put fuel costs through my business, but I wonder if I should just take the plunge and get the m5....although I found the small tank of the 997 ad very regular refills a bit tiresome.....btw I do about 300 miles per week......

35d's are a tad common, but from what I read they are fine cars indeed......

£20k seems to be buy a decent enough M5 and a very good example of a 35d......choices choices.....


beemarman

180 posts

253 months

Saturday 14th May 2011
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300 miles per week would be about £120-150 on the M5 using the high end fuel.


ecain63

10,641 posts

199 months

Saturday 14th May 2011
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Don't get one over 60k miles as you won't be able to get that all important warranty. Other than the fuel, tax and insurance, get em while they are hot.

amar7274

509 posts

209 months

Saturday 14th May 2011
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If you are currently doing 300 miles per week then I would suggest you stay well away from the M5. Not taking anything away from the car it's a fantastic all rounder, but the fuel consumption will start to bother you.

Gaygle

322 posts

232 months

Saturday 14th May 2011
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You're choosing between a fairly economical 280bhp 3 litre diesel coupe and a 507bhp 5.0 V10 fire breathing supersaloon? Really? If fuel is not an issue, why aren't you considering the better petrol counterparts. Even then, why are you even considering something like a 335 when you're also considering an M5? They are in a totally differnt league as one another.

M5's cost vastly more to fuel, insure, repair, service, warranty and £20k is not enough to get a good one. You wouldn't find me buying one from one of these indepedents traders - it'd be main dealer or nothing. You'd need 24k+ for a decent main dealer example.

In other news, i'm trying to choose my next car, but i can't decide between a Lotus Elise or a Skoda Roomster diesel. Can anyone help?

Edited by Gaygle on Saturday 14th May 23:27

david_h

579 posts

287 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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If you're willing to consider a 335D, why not a M3 E90 saloon. Slight compromise but won't drink quite as much petrol and is probably more balanced handling wise than the coupe. (i'm guessing)

skeeterm5

4,478 posts

212 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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I am not sure £20k would get you into a e90 M3.

Having owned and run an E60 M5 for 2 years I can say they are amazing cars, but if you didnt like stopping regualarly for fuel then this isnt the car for you.

I did around 300 miles to work and back each week and had to be looking for a filling station at around 200 miles, so this means at least 2 stops per week for fuel. This is before you add in the times you press on and it then sucks fuel at an even more alarming rate.

The other point, and I dont know if it is just me, but a £20k E60 M5 sounds like a very scary proposition.....

S

ecain63

10,641 posts

199 months

Sunday 15th May 2011
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^^^ I think any E60 below £25k should be approached with caution. Brake discs, pads, tyres and services may be on the turn with the cheaper cars, along with worn clutch and flywheel.

EmS138

7 posts

179 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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But..surely there are £20k (or under) examples out there that have been well maintained but are higher mileage? If you can get an extended warranty (unlikely to be a BMW one though), is this still a no-go in people's view?

At what point do they become good value?

ecain63

10,641 posts

199 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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I don't think there is an aftermarket warranty out there to match the one provided by BMW. With the BMW extended warranty you don't have to pay for work and then claim it back, they don't wriggle out of paying at every opportunity and its bloody good value. I had a Warranty Direct policy on my RS6 and they were rubbish for all these reasons. Stay BMW, stay safe.

Eddie

manand38

2,025 posts

230 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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Can't see anything wrong with > 60k miles, just get it checked by a BM garage first....

Also, BM do some form of warranty up to 100k miles I believe.

Gaygle

322 posts

232 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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IIRC over 60k miles, a warranty for an M5 is circa £2100 a year for comprehensive coverage.

I still can't see where a 335d and an M5 crossover though, and the OP hasn't come back to explain.

Slurms

1,254 posts

228 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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manand38 said:
Also, BM do some form of warranty up to 100k miles I believe.
They do but they start to exclude certain items from cover for example the suspension will no longer be covered.

ecain63

10,641 posts

199 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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Slurms said:
They do but they start to exclude certain items from cover for example the suspension will no longer be covered.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought you could only get cover beyond 60k if you had the warranty before 60k. It only goes up in cost past 60k if you pay annually. For some reason the monthly payments stay the same throughout.

M5 Mark

1,674 posts

195 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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skeeterm5 said:
I am not sure £20k would get you into a e90 M3.

Having owned and run an E60 M5 for 2 years I can say they are amazing cars, but if you didnt like stopping regualarly for fuel then this isnt the car for you.

I did around 300 miles to work and back each week and had to be looking for a filling station at around 200 miles, so this means at least 2 stops per week for fuel. This is before you add in the times you press on and it then sucks fuel at an even more alarming rate.

The other point, and I dont know if it is just me, but a £20k E60 M5 sounds like a very scary proposition.....

S
I have many days where I stop for fuel TWICE a day smile and love every minute of it smile

Back to OP, YES! Buy the M5, the 535 is wonderful... but it is not even remotely close to a V10. Everyone with a 535d will tell you about wonderful torque against lame torque of an M5/ Sod the torque and take the 200mph+ beast!

ecain63

10,641 posts

199 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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M5 Mark said:
skeeterm5 said:
I am not sure £20k would get you into a e90 M3.

Having owned and run an E60 M5 for 2 years I can say they are amazing cars, but if you didnt like stopping regualarly for fuel then this isnt the car for you.

I did around 300 miles to work and back each week and had to be looking for a filling station at around 200 miles, so this means at least 2 stops per week for fuel. This is before you add in the times you press on and it then sucks fuel at an even more alarming rate.

The other point, and I dont know if it is just me, but a £20k E60 M5 sounds like a very scary proposition.....

S
I have many days where I stop for fuel TWICE a day smile and love every minute of it smile

Back to OP, YES! Buy the M5, the 535 is wonderful... but it is not even remotely close to a V10. Everyone with a 535d will tell you about wonderful torque against lame torque of an M5/ Sod the torque and take the 200mph+ beast!
I say sod the torque too. You dont get that F1-esque sound from the diesel!!

CSLchappie

438 posts

228 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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Shameless plug but I have a very nice E60 for sale below 25k, bar a pair of rear tyres within the next 2-3000 miles it wants for nothing, and it has an extended warranty.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2815161.htm

As for fuel consumption, I get a steady 200 miles per tank around town, longer runs on A roads / motorways will stretch that out to 300-350.

ecain63 said:
^^^ I think any E60 below £25k should be approached with caution. Brake discs, pads, tyres and services may be on the turn with the cheaper cars, along with worn clutch and flywheel.

davidd

6,675 posts

308 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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I had a 335d and much as though I loved it.. I'd have the m5 wink

Aeroresh

1,429 posts

256 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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Im facing a similar dilema... just sold a VXR8 Bathurst S which never got used and trying to sell a Navara pick up which tends to use every day

Ran a 535d with DMS upgrade prior and whilst it was great for torque surfing, and every day use, it was ultimately too dull!

Despite doing 300 miles plus a week Im seriously looking at a circa £30k e60 M5 or possibly an E63 merc. Had considered a 335i/d but ultimately discounted due to the previous comment about the 535d. Am I mad?

Baddie

761 posts

241 months

Saturday 21st May 2011
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If you can write off the fuel costs this is a no-contest.

But remember that you are not buying a £25-30k saloon car. You are buying a 205 mph supercar with an engine that costs >£16k in short form and a gearbox that could be more robust than it is. This is serious machinery performing at a heavyweight level, and if it goes wrong it will cost someone an awful lot. I would only buy from BMW, and pay the premium that implies.

On a lower level than M5, my little bro recently bought a Boxster S with 15k miles. Given the journalists' endless praise of it's granite quality you'd think they'd all be ok. He's already had much of the premium of dealership purchase back in warranty costs for a new waterpump - not the kind of failure you could expect on any car of that age/mileage but sorted with no quibble, and no stress. They do not make them like they used to.

(And to think, S Sutcliffe says Porsche only spend £6k more building a 911 turbo than a Boxster.....)